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05-07-2008
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something like trix but slower
I just like to ask, which film is like trix in rodinal, but much slower for using it in summer.
Searching for something like the picture.
Thanks for every tipp.
sem
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05-07-2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sem
I just like to ask, which film is like trix in rodinal, but much slower for using it in summer.
Searching for something like the picture.
Thanks for every tipp.
sem
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may be fomapan 100
or ILFORD FP4
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05-07-2008
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everything is temporary..
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trix are for kids........ 
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Great photo!
Maybe try Fuji Acros.
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if it works, I like to be a kid
Martin, did you develop fomapan in rodinal?
And could you post a picture from it, please.
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FP4+ or Efke 100 have something of the Tri-X feel among slower films. I don't normally process them in Rodinal though.
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05-07-2008
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FP4+ or Efke 100 have something of the Tri-X feel among slower films. I don't normally process them in Rodinal though.
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FP-4 Plus in Rodinal has beautiful Tonality. I have never used it in 35mm though, only in 120, but I like it:

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05-07-2008
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I just like to ask, which film is like trix in rodinal, but much slower for using it in summer.
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easiest question ever: Plus-X, ISO 125
If you like something in-between, check the Double-X thread (ISO 200)
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05-07-2008
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Quote:
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if it works, I like to be a kid
Martin, did you develop fomapan in rodinal?
And could you post a picture from it, please.
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e.q., but not represenstativ

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05-07-2008
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the fomapan is quite cheap and not so very finegrainy,
it has no shield on the back side to provide against light flairs,
sometimes this ist great, but not always :-(
I use it most times for testing
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05-07-2008
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Consider Foma 200. It's actually identical in speed to FP4, i.e. only ISO 200 in speed increasing developers. (Source: own tests + Foma's own spec sheets). Gorgeous tonality in many devs.
Cheers,
Roger
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Is Fomapan 100/200/400 so close to the Kodak films?
It's WAY cheaper, so it could be interesting for my day-to-day shooting.
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05-07-2008
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This is Acros in Rodinal 1+100

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thanks for the beautiful pictures.
Thanks, Martin, I like the oldfashion look of the fomapan.
Last weekend I shoot an Adox 50. Did you try the adox 25.
Is it oldfashaner than the 50.
Just forget: mfogiel, thanks. I love your work on flickr.
Thanks
sem
Last edited by sem : 05-07-2008 at 12:31.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sem
thanks for the beautiful pictures.
Thanks, Martin, I like the oldfashion look of the fomapan.
Last weekend I shoot an Adox 50. Did you try the adox 25.
Is it oldfashaner than the 50.
Just forget: mfogiel, thanks. I love your work on flickr.
Thanks
sem
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unfortunately not,
I'm at the end of my TriX time and switch to Fuji Neopan 400.
This summer I'll use some rools FP4 and APX 100.
Last winter I shot wonderfull snow landscapes on FP4 developed them in Foma R09, wich is the same as Rodinal, and was astonished at the sharpness.
But they are much more grainy than TriX developed in A49.
A never ending story....
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Is Fomapan 100/200/400 so close to the Kodak films?
It's WAY cheaper, so it could be interesting for my day-to-day shooting.
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They are very different from one another. Personally I would not give 100 house room, but I love 200. I have however seen excellent pics taken by others with 100. Of 400 I have little knowledge.
Cheers,
R.
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I have tried kodak plus X 125, very similar to trix, in rodinal, I use both at 1+25, it is very nice 
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I've shot FP4 as a substitute for Tri-X for just this reason (shooting glaciers in Patagonia) but found I don't really like it as much. I was shooting medium format in a Mamiya 6 and was pretty disappointed with the FP4. I find it tends to get a little too contrasty and lacks the wonderful mid greys of Tri-X without really offering much in grain reduction.
I used to shoot Verichrome but 1) it's no longer available 2) it was only available in 120 when I shot it and 3) it's got this sort of creamy look that lacks pop.
Why don't you just pull Tri-X? Lots of people shoot Tri-X from anywhere from 100-1000.
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They are very different from one another. Personally I would not give 100 house room, but I love 200. I have however seen excellent pics taken by others with 100. Of 400 I have little knowledge.
Cheers,
R.
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I recently have been using the Arista version of the Fomapan 100 in 120, developed in Rodinal, and I actually like it very much. But, it is the curliest film I have ever encountered. It simply will not flatten, even pressed between the pages of a book. I'm afraid to try the Fomapan 200, as a result. Does the 35mm version dry flat?
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Laura,
I have used Fomapan 100, developed in PMK, and it dried reasonably flat and became totally flat in a week or so under a heavy book. I didn't like it in PMK though. I have one roll left and may try it in Rodinal or D76 to see if its worth buying more. This was shot with it developed in PMK.

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05-07-2008
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Someone here loves APX 100 in Rodinal- I forget whom, or what the images look like- but I'd be curious to hear from them. Even though this film is discontinued, I think one can still find it around, and I'd love to hear about this combo, as well as Fuji Across and Neopan 100's, too...?
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APX100 is the closest to the TriX look but it is getting hard to find. FP4+ IMO is quite different looking. Many say foma 100 is simlar to APX100 in terms of look, but I have yet to test it. Efke 100 has similar grain size to many 400 films, but is slower so that might be an option. APX100 also develops at similar times to TriX in many devs so you can dev in the same tank....just like FP4+ and Neopan 400.
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05-08-2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lns
I recently have been using the Arista version of the Fomapan 100 in 120, developed in Rodinal, and I actually like it very much. But, it is the curliest film I have ever encountered. It simply will not flatten, even pressed between the pages of a book. I'm afraid to try the Fomapan 200, as a result. Does the 35mm version dry flat?
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Dear Laura,
Flat enough for me, but obviously a lot depends on storage and relative humidity. Put it this way: I'd never noticed a problem in maybe 10 years' use. I'd recommend that you try a roll or two. The 35mm and 120 bases are very different.
Cheers,
R.
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05-08-2008
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i use plus x pan in summer, it has quite the same tones as tri x.
it there is too much light you can use a grey filter or pull it on development. i exposed many rolls of tri x at iso 200, rich greyscale!
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