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Old 01-17-2008   #1
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Fed Serial Numbers???

Does anyone know how to determine the age of a Fed or Zorki based on the number of the camera?

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Old 01-17-2008   #2
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95-97% of Zorkis since 1955 have serial number with two first digits indicationg the year of production.
Exceptions:
- pre-55 production (Zorki-1 mostly, Zorki-3 even of 1954 production have two digits indication, I got such camera of 1954 production) with through order of serials
- Anniversary models
- Small production units
- Out of serial order production parties

almost all FEDs from 1934 till c. 1983-86 have through order of serials.
www.fedka.com has a table of first FED models serials. Otherwise, show your camera.
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Fed's do not appear to follow a consistent pattern. Very difficult to pin down. I think with Zorkis the first 2 digits of the serial# are the year of manufacture, but I'm not certain of that.
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Otherwise, show your camera.
I'm curious so here's mine.

Fed-2A Type 2C (least what I was told by the guy I got it from)


And another angle, next to a Fed-2C I had until a few months ago.
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Old 01-17-2008   #5
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Bottom picture:
To the right is FED-2 made in 1955
To the left FED-2 made between 1958 and 1963, let`s say it is 1960 -)))

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Bottom picture:
To the right is FED-2 made in 1955
To the left FED-2 made between 1958 and 1963, let`s say it is 1960 -)))
Least now I know the approximate years. I sold the Fed-2C on the left a while back, I kept the Fed-2A on the right since it "felt" nicer to me, though the guy who sold me both considers the 2C to be a much nicer one. I thought it mighta been 50s on the one on the right, but wasn't sure when.

I guess the Fed-2A I use as a backup to my Canon P is older than my P :P.

Out of curiousity, how do you figure the year on them, do you just generally know when they made the models?
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Old 01-17-2008   #7
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Presice year you can only learn from counting serial number in comparison to total production of this variation.

In general yes.
Princelle`s book + G. Abramov`s site.
As you can see - I edited my message. Firstly I wrote: Left FED was made in 1961, then after сonsulting with Princelle`s book I changed year to 1960. You can take this answer, or change it to 1959 after playing with serials.
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Presice year you can only learn from counting serial number in comparison to total production of this variation.

In general yes.
Princelle`s book + G. Abramov`s site.
As you can see - I edited my message. Firstly I wrote: Left FED was made in 1961, then after сonsulting with Princelle`s book I changed year to 1960. You can take this answer, or change it to 1959 after playing with serials.
Good to know.

Round the store we usually use the McKeown's Cameras book, but thats normally to identify or semi-value something that comes in. Then top that off with eBay when we figure out what variation the camera is.

I guess one thing is for certain though, the serial numbers do not seem to be nearly as consistant or documented as well as say Rolleiflex and Leicas. But matters not if the cheap commie crap, I mean fine soviet wormanship still works
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Thanks all......Fedka.com had the numbers with the years of production for Feds. I have a 1940'ish Fed Id which as Karl just said is great "as long as it still works"....

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Thanks all......Fedka.com had the numbers with the years of production for Feds. I have a 1940'ish Fed Id which as Karl just said is great "as long as it still works"....

Ray
I had the luxery of getting mine from a guy who owned over 40 of them, 2/3rd of which were bad that he used as parts to recondition and tweak the other good ones. I can't remember his name, but he basically fixed my 2A right up before sending it off to me, he also made a comment bout how some Feds were serviced by tank technicians that wound the tension up so hard that it sounds like a rat trap going off.

I was reluctant to get one in the past cuz most places I looked they were generally the same price as the shipping, and no real assurance if they worked or not. You'd almost have to buy 3 before getting a 4th good one (as that one guy also confirming). I felt it safer to buy from actual users as I did with both of the above and sold the 2C to another user whom I hope is enjoying it.

I would be interested in seeing a picture of your Fed-1d if you get time.
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here is the answer for fed 2 serial numbers

(1955-1956) 008*** - 115*** (type A w/o flash sync, w/o selftimer)
(1956-1957) 136*** - 437*** (type B with sync, w/o selftimer)
(1958-1960) 480*** - 868*** (type C1 with sync, with selftimer, mushroom knob)
(1958-1963) 1114*** - 2330*** (type C2 with sync, with selftimer, mushroom knob, new speeds, name in cyrillic)
(1963-1969) 2381*** - 9911*** A026*** - A087*** (type C3 and D with sync, with selftimer, mushroom knob, new speeds)

more on this here
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...ad.php?t=51937
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Old 01-19-2008   #12
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Thanks all!!

THe pic attached is from the Fedka web site.

Ray

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Old 01-19-2008   #13
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(1956-1957) 136*** - 437*** (type B with sync, w/o selftimer)
So my camera (green/alu body) is from that time frame, having a 307*** serial.
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Old 02-13-2008   #14
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Thank you all, this thread has been really helpful
My first FED-2 arrived from Russia today, and I'm pretty amazed by it. There's just something beautiful about a 50 year old Soviet camera being able to work with a 35mm cartridge that says "Return to Wal Mart"
My camera's serial number is 280091, which according to this site makes it a Fed 2B. This makes sense because there is no self timer.
That being said, looking at the pictures of FED 2B's on this site:
http://www.commiecameras.com/sov/35m.../fed/index.htm

I notice several differences. First, my camera has no markings on the top except for the script FED. Even the little arrow for the film selector is missing, there is a little red dot inside the hub to select the speed Second, my case has two snaps, whereas this site says it should have one.

Does anyone else have a camera like this, or can tell me why it seems different?






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Old 02-13-2008   #15
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also, no political statement intended with the Huckabee book on my desk- I was just a curious member of the party that opposes him trying to find out more
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Hi,
I've just discovered all the old USSR-cams and it feels really interesting! I've just ordered a FED2 and waiting for it to arrive.

Can anyone help me classify it? From what I understand it is a type c / type d fed 2 from around 1963. The serial number is: 1205454

I've been reading up a lot on this forum and it seems like you have loads of guides for how to fix problems with the cams. Any special things I should do before I load my first roll in to it?

Will be really fun trying it out in a week or two!

Thanks in advance
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Old 02-19-2014   #17
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It looks to be a type 9c, or 10ad according to Komarov's list. It dates between 1962 to 1965.
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Old 02-19-2014   #18
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It looks to be a type 9c, or 10ad according to Komarov's list. It dates between 1962 to 1965.
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Old 02-19-2014   #19
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I find this site useful

http://www.sovietcams.com/index.php?414372438

I've been trying amass as many different Fed I engravings as I can but have fallen short...
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Old 02-19-2014   #20
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Thanks a lot! It doesn't really matter, right?
Hi,

Welcome aboard.

As you say, it doesn't really matter; FED 2's are excellent cameras to start your RF exploration and pretty reliable. I see them as a development of the early (pre-war) Leicas and it's interesting to see the elements in the design from other makers like Contax etc. If you have any problems with them then many technicians can sort them out and the one most recommend is Oleg at OK Vintage Cameras.

My 2d worth is to say that I feel a lot of ex USSR cameras are messed up by people who think they can repair them but who haven't the experience or tools.

BTW, you can easily download the instruction manual for it in PDF format and that will tell you all you need to know. Plus some of the little drawings in it are very endearing...

BTW 2, a lens hood is a good idea, just like it would be on a Leica 7 or Sinar F.

For your first roll it's a good idea to make a note of the exposure for each shot and then you can compare performance with prints. It also helps you check it at each shutter speed and aperture setting.

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