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View Poll Results: Favourite 400 Speed Film?
Kodak TriX 400 748 41.74%
Kodak TMAX 400 198 11.05%
Ilford Delta 400 112 6.25%
Ilford HP5 Plus 400 530 29.58%
Efke KB400 12 0.67%
Fomapan 400 31 1.73%
Fuji Neopan 400 296 16.52%
Rollei R3 400 10 0.56%
Forte Fortepan 400 2 0.11%
Arista EDU Ultra 400 17 0.95%
Arista II 400 9 0.50%
Another unlisted 400 95 5.30%
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Old 12-05-2007   #51
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So far- TMax 400 @ 400, Xtol 1:1

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Old 12-05-2007   #52
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Hi All. I voted for Neopan 400 and I have no hesitation in recommending this lovely film to anyone. I was torn between this and Tri-X as my favorite but the Fuji won by the narrowest of margins. Better skin tones in my opinion.
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Old 12-05-2007   #53
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I like HP5+ (ID11 1:1) in my MF work, but sometimes find the grain too much in 35mm, so seem to be standardising on Delta 400 here.
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Old 12-05-2007   #54
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Tri-x.........
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Old 12-05-2007   #55
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I'll always love 400TX; but these days I'm often rating it @1600, souped in HC110h. Works a treat.


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Old 12-06-2007   #56
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I have 1 roll of Tri-X. Not sure which camera I loaded it into... I love surprises
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I have not had good luck with Rodinal or Diafine with the 35mm version of HP5, so I am looking for a better develper for the 100 feet of it that I have on hand right now.
I have liked HP5 the most in D76 1:1. It is also ok in HC-110 1:100 and dil B. Didn't like it in Rodinal 1:50, but I have not played around with different dilutions of Rodinal as much as I have with the other two developers. Oh, and FWIW, got really good looking negatives of HP5 in Caffenol-C, haven't tried printing yet.
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HP5+ for several years now. I have about 100 rolls of 35mm in the freezer along with about half that much in 120 size. I process it in Rodinal diluted with sodium sulfite (as per Bill Pierce's articles from the early 1970s) or D76 1:1 or 1:3.

I also like Tri-X but HP5 looks just a smidgen better to me.
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Old 12-07-2007   #59
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In my short life as an amateur photographer, I've used a few different films: Neopan 100/400/1600, TriX, Agfa 100/400, HP5, Delta 100/400, Fomapan 400, Era 100 (Chinese film).
TriX was my favorite for a long time, but I found out that HP5 is a better, richer, more subtle film. So my favorite is HP5, but my opinion is of an amateur. For fine grain and superb contrast, Neopan 100 (Acros) is wonderful.
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Old 12-08-2007   #60
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Give me Tri-X or give me death.
I would eat the stuff if I could.

Develop it in DD-X, but plan on giving Xtol a try.
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Old 12-08-2007   #61
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Tri-X, Neopan 400, HP5+ : I use whichever one costs the least the day I'm buying. They're great films with slight personality differences but much in common.

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I keep checking this thread to see if Tri-X will finally edge out HP5+.


*edit* Yes, Tri-X now leading.
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Interesting that T-max isn't getting a lot of votes...I wanted to love this film when it first came out and believe me I tried...I have 40 rolls of T-max 120, 400 ASA in the fridge...not to worry I will shoot it...
I just need to find the right exposure/develope combo to get it NOT to be flat looking...
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nikon_sam, check with John Sexton and as someone said 'he may know a thing or two.' His latest email was about the 'new' Tmax400, and he recommended: D-76, 1:1, 68 degrees, 7 minutes. He also, I believe uses Tmax RS and D-76 on the old Tmax400. I'm with you though, I just couldn't get the stuff to work for me. Frankly, I'm surprised at how many votes Tmax400 got. I wish these guys and gals would tell us their secrets.

Sorry, (this is an edit) he uses E.I. 250 with the new Tmax400.

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nikon_sam, check with John Sexton and as someone said 'he may know a thing or two.' His latest email was about the 'new' Tmax400, and he recommended: D-76, 1:1, 68 degrees, 7 minutes. He also, I believe uses Tmax RS and D-76 on the old Tmax400. I'm with you though, I just couldn't get the stuff to work for me. Frankly, I'm surprised at how many votes Tmax400 got. I wish these guys and gals would tell us their secrets.

Sorry, (this is an edit) he uses E.I. 250 with the new Tmax400.
The original Tmax 400, the version made before they built their new facory a few yrs back, worked gorgeously in Tmax Developer diluted 1+7 at 75 degrees for 10 minutes with agitation first 30 sec, then 4 inversions every minute.

This works well on the last version of Tmax 400, right before the new fine grain version that just came out, but the grain is a lot more than the old original Tmax 400. I used to use Tmax 400 but now prefer Tri-X.


The original Tmax 400. Shot in an ancient Rolleiflex Automat, uncoated Tessar.

Here's some shot in 35mm using the latest Tmax 400. This isn't the new, improved one....its not yet available where i live so I've not tried it. But it gives an idea of what's possible for those who still have some around and couldn't get good results.





These were both shot with an Olympus OM-4T. The first with a Zuiko 35mm f2, the second with a Zuiko 100mm f2.8. All three photos here were processed in Tmax developer as outlined above, at EI 400.
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Old 12-08-2007   #66
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Over the years, I've bounced between HP5, Tri-X, and Neopan 400/1600. Then I discovered chromogenics, and came to love them; mostly XP2 Super, but occasionally Kodak BW400 as well.

This, I believe, I took with Neo 1600, late summer 1995, during an outdoor performance (Washington Sq. Park) of King Lear.




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Chris, I did read in one of Sexton's (about old Tmax and possibly Tmax400 medium new) missives that he used 75 degrees, but he said that it was because he couldn't get water temperature lower where he lived. Just by coincidence Kodak also recommended 75 degrees for Tmax development.
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Chris, I did read in one of Sexton's (about old Tmax and possibly Tmax400 medium new) missives that he used 75 degrees, but he said that it was because he couldn't get water temperature lower where he lived. Just by coincidence Kodak also recommended 75 degrees for Tmax development.
I think kodak recommended 75 just to keep times short. I've used it at 68 and saw no image quality difference. For the 1+7 dilution that i prefer, the times get kinda long at 68....its 10 minutes at 75.
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chris, that third tmax shot is a very fine shot! what stories that face can tell....
Thanks, That's my grandfather. He is 82 yrs old and has alzheimer's. He's not doing well at all right now

The shot I posted was taken in back in april when he was feeling a little better than now.
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I forgot to mention, that for whatever reason, Neopan 400 negs, print up quite well on color paper in the one-hour photo machines. The Neoapn 1600 (very nice film) prints up poorly on one-hour color machines...

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There's something weird about this thread, it pops up on top all the time (at least 4 times today) but the last post is bigdog's 3 days ago!

On the first page it says "Last post: 18 minutes ago, 11:50 by bigdog"?
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Emil, it's a poll, you can vote without posting a thing.
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Ah, thanks Eugene!

Never saw that in previous polls...
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