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11-18-2008
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from Canon 50/1.2 LTM at 1.2:
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11-18-2008
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Bokeh is always better on film than in digital. Yet there is one shot I like a lot. Noctilux + R-D1s. It looks like the fan was swirling everything behind it.
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11-20-2008
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#429
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Uwe,
pretty cool idea, nice idea for portraits.
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12-12-2008
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Old bokeh
Really old bokeh.
First Christmas cactus blossom, November 30, 2008
Circa 1913 6" (more or less) Bausch & Lomb Rapid Rectilinear. 4x5 Ilford HP5+
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12-13-2008
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#431
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Epson R-D1 + 40/1.4 Nokton
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12-13-2008
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#432
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12-14-2008
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#433
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the need for speed
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Keith -- i missed this one. love it!!!
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The bokeh from my 50mm f1.2 Zuiko can be pretty wild at times and as someone pointed out the 1.4 is probabaly a cheaper better lens ... but it ain't 1.2! 
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12-14-2008
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Refuses to suffer fools
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An evil slr - Nikkor 80-200/2.8D, current 2 ring version. 200mm, f/2.8.
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12-14-2008
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Refuses to suffer fools
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Summicron 35/2 ASPH, Fuji 800 Superia, 1/8 @ f/2.8.
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12-16-2008
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Cant remember what lens, either Cron DR or Summitar
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12-17-2008
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Nikkor P.C 85/2. Sry big size but i dont think the bokeh is "clear" otherwise
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12-17-2008
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Leitz/Minolta CL with 40/2 Rokkor
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12-17-2008
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Don't remember the lens, but I think it was summicron 90/2 on the Epson R-D1.
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12-17-2008
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Take a look at some of the photo's of ROGVON on this Flickr website taken using Canon 50mm F1.2 LTM on a Leica M8.
Some nice colour and BOKEH here !!!!!!
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12-18-2008
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12-19-2008
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after 26 pages: Can anyone give me an iron-clad definitition of exactly what "bokeh" means? I defy you to find it in the dictionary.
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12-19-2008
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Update - I did find it with some help from Google. It seems to mean the quality of out-of-focus areas produced by a lens under shallow depth-of-focus conditions.
Now explain that to Ansel Adams, Edward Weston, and any number of others. Except that they probably didn't have the problem, since they took most of their pictures at f/32.
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12-19-2008
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Rollei AFM35. XP2 film. |
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12-21-2008
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Ultra Wide Angle Bokeh. Leica M8, CV15mm + 5mm extension ring, f8 or f11.
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12-21-2008
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Our very own Al Patterson
RD-1 w/ 35 F2 'cron
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Reason: additional info
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12-22-2008
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#447
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I've edited it with iPhoto, but the "bubbles" in the bokeh was there from the very beginning.
Camera: Epson R-D1s
Lens: Dallmeyer Super-Six Projection 1 3/4" f1.9 @ f1.9
Color tone changed with iPhoto
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12-22-2008
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#448
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Cool that this thread is still going.
Please do remember to post lens info.
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So, please post example pictures, of what you think is good and bad bokeh,
which lens at which aperture you used, and why you like/dislike the lens'
OOF performance.
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12-25-2008
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Bronica Zenzanon-PE 75mm f2.8 @ f2.8 on Velvia 100, Bronica ETRSi
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12-25-2008
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I haven't posted to this thread in a while - glad to see its still running! Here's a couple of shots for comparison. Both are taken with a wartime CZJ Sonnar 50mm f1.5 on the R-D1.
@f1.5 - soft and abstract, with foreground veiling flare:
All the way to f4.0 - still has a very impressionist look:
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