NEW MS-Optics Apoqualia-G 28/2
Old 10-05-2016   #1
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NEW MS-Optics Apoqualia-G 28/2

To be expected:

https://www.facebook.com/hayatacamer...859073/?type=3

Mr. Miyazaki just introduced an Apoqualia-G 28/2 for 97,200 yen.

The lens is 9.8mm thick and weighs at a petite 70 grams. It's a 5/4 Gauss type (the diagram shows 6 elements though) that's designed to be soft wide open and sharp from f/4 onward. Highly corrected for astigmatism, with minimal distortion.








As usual it's not perfect but look at the size...
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Old 10-05-2016   #2
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That actually sounds pleasant, always love seeing new projects from Mr. Miyazaki, Thanks for sharing!
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Around $1000, not too bad.
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Cool stuff!
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Not sure I see the point of a soft 28mm lens... Longer focal lengths sure, but for wides I don't get it. Plus if this thing is near a grand, there is the old Voigtlander 28/3.5 which is mighty small, and the 28mm 2.8 Biogon which is fairly compact and extremely high performance. Actually both the CV and ZM are top notch.
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Not sure I see the point of a soft 28mm lens... Longer focal lengths sure, but for wides I don't get it. Plus if this thing is near a grand, there is the old Voigtlander 28/3.5 which is mighty small, and the 28mm 2.8 Biogon which is fairly compact and extremely high performance. Actually both the CV and ZM are top notch.
You can't put a price on something being handmade. These might be worth quite a bit later on down the road. Also, sharp is a relative term. I know you typically like to get in at 100% and see the detail but this lens is more about the emotion. I bet it's super smooth too.
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You can't put a price on something being handmade. These might be worth quite a bit later on down the road. Also, sharp is a relative term. I know you typically like to get in at 100% and see the detail but this lens is more about the emotion. I bet it's super smooth too.
But what if the emotion is sadness?
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I already own his Perar Super Triplet in 28/4 which is a terrific lens as well. This may be a nice step up with two stops faster speed without a huge increase in size. I hope somebody will do some comparisons between the two.
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How do you adjust the aperture?
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How do you adjust the aperture?
Turn the ring on the front that has the two notches killed out of it I presume. It doesn't like a "without looking" type of arrangement!

The lens looks pretty interesting, f/2, even if a bit soft would be handy indoors. I can't believe I'm saying this, but is it a little too small?
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Does anyone know why you can't use it on a Bessa?
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Does anyone know why you can't use it on a Bessa?
The rear element might be protruding too much - half the optical assembly is behind the flange.

The MTF is typical for a wide angle Gaussian lens. It should have similar performance to the 35 Summicron v3 or more optimistically, the Contax G Planar 35/2, with adequate sharpness.

No one had pushed the 28mm Gauss type design this far since the 1950's, so the lens is unique. Unlike the Apoqualia 35/1.4, this one has no obvious substitute - that's the point people might be buying into.
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we used to call lenses that performed differently at different apertures 'versatile', and saw that very versatility as essential to the artistic palette. now most dont see the point of them. it seems de riguer to want every lens to perform exactly the same way across the entire frame at every aperture. how very boring.
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Any samples?
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Any samples?
The 35/1.4 Apoqualia has the same Gauss design and very similar MTF curves.

I imagine the images will look similar - just a bit wider view and a bit broader dof.
I posted lots of samples here :

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/...-35mm-14-f-mc/

In some situations I like the non-ideal rendition of the lens, but very few people expressed similar enthusiasm over the characterful nature of the 35/1.4 in the above thread.
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Just an update: expect Mr. Miyazaki to release 2 more M mount lenses:

Perar 17/4.5
Aporis 135/2.4

All coming this fall.
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is there a central site where all MS optics lenses are listed?
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Pretty damn nice.
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More details here:
http://www.japancamerahunter.com/201...lia-g-28mm-f2/

100,000 Yen ( US$963 ) - if you want to order one

I prefer the speed and view of 35/1.4 so will skip
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I've often looked at his lenses, especially the 35/1.4.

But why does he put the aperture backwards to Leica, Voigtlander, and Zeiss? I don't get it.
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But why does he put the aperture backwards to Leica, Voigtlander, and Zeiss? I don't get it.
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Where is the S mount then!
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Mr. Miyazaki's notes on the upcoming Perar 17/4.5 and Aporis 135/2.4:





The Perar is a 4/4 retrofocus (!) type while the Aporis is an Ernostar.

The Aporis will come at 148,000 yen with an optional 1.8x teleconverter (128,000 yen for a non-coupled version with dual spherical aberration & coma adjustment levers). Not exactly cheap but the fluorite-enhanced performance looks superb. Leica's current 135/3.4 ASPH APO-Telyt-M retails for $3795 at B&H...
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and an optional 1.8x teleconverter.
1.8x tele-converter or 1.8x eyepiece magnifier for more accurate focusing?
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1.8x tele-converter or 1.8x eyepiece magnifier for more accurate focusing?
Thanks for the correction, it should be a magnifier!
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Thanks for the correction, it should be a magnifier!
No worries. I figured it must be an eyepiece magnifier rather than a tele-converter as it makes more sense (at least to me).

The fully manual adjustments for SA and coma optimization on the non rangefinder coupled 135/2.4 version are a very interesting addition, and something that I don't think has ever been done before. Will be interesting to see how these adjustments can be used to create different imaging affects.
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I'm always very excited for Miyazaki-San's designs. Not that I buy them. I've always had GAS for the Sonnetar 1.1 (and may end up trying one out.) but this 28/2 would already be in my bag if I had a Leica w/ 28 Framelines. The compactness would be lost a little bit if I had to use an optional finder. ):

Nevertheless I very much encourage his Craft. Truly wonderful.
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My copy arrived. Quite a stunning lens. MiyazakiSan's master piece if you ask me (note that I have a 28mm bias ).



Here a size comparison with my other "small" 28mm lenses



Tests came out great, see here if you are interested: https://ferider.smugmug.com/Picture-.../2016/11062016.

Cann't wait to use it in the field.

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Mr. Miyazaki's notes on the upcoming Perar 17/4.5 and Aporis 135/2.4:





The Perar is a 4/4 retrofocus (!) type while the Aporis is an Ernostar.

The Aporis will come at 148,000 yen with an optional 1.8x teleconverter (128,000 yen for a non-coupled version with dual spherical aberration & coma adjustment levers). Not exactly cheap but the fluorite-enhanced performance looks superb. Leica's current 135/3.4 ASPH APO-Telyt-M retails for $3795 at B&H...
This is the first I've heard of these 2 additions. Might I enquire where you found out about this?
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how difficult is it to change the aperture with the lens hood attached?
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Hmmmm...it seems to front focus?
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Hmmmm...it seems to front focus?
You mean my test ? Thanks for looking

Yes, front focusing about 3cm at 0.8m, wide open.

Note, however, that (1) at a total DOF of 9cm at 0.8m this is still acceptable to me, (2) MiyazakiSan writes in the spec that RF doesn't couple below 0.9m, but my copy does, and finally (3) focus shift puts the focus dead center into the DOF window at f2.8; which I like.

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Makes the "new" summaron look huge!
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Several questions:
1-what is the filter size?
2-given how small it is, would using a filter defeat the purpose.
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The filter size is 28 mm, as given in his pamphlet that comes with the lens. I've been trying to find one in-store in Sydney but nowhere I've tried stocks one, so I'll have to order online. I think it's worth getting one to protect the front element. The hood is pretty shallow.
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I think it's worth getting one to protect the front element.
Usually the places online that sell the lens have the filters for these MS Optical lenses.
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Thanks John, you're right. I'm going to try a local online supplier though because of our awful exchange rate.
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In Japan what retailers carry his stuff?
Looks like Map Camera has some.. anyone else?
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Stephen G, I got mine from Japan Camera Hunter by mail order, but I'm pretty sure you could pick one up from him in Tokyo, if he has stock.
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Got mine from Fotopia over ebay. Great service. Beautiful lens. Subsequently, got a 28 mm filter from B and H. Taking it for a stroll this afternoon. Fall colors in Central Park.
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