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21mm Super Angulon value?

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I just bought a Leica M4-P with a 21 SUPER-ANGULON 3.4 for $850. Im not sure if I'm gonna keep the lens or not. What is the value of the black 3.4 version these days? Is there a market?
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You got a bargain. The lens easily sells for $800 on ebay.

Note there are version differences, the later versions are compatible with the Leica M5, as in it won't trigger the meter arm. The lens protrudes too far back into the film chamber and can damage the M5 meter.

I also understand that the rear of the lens can block the meter in the M8/M9, but have read reports of good results with the M8/M9 if one "compensates" for the meter reading.

The lens has a very classical image rendering quality that can be quite attractive.
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Then it was a great deal! I will try them out before i decide.
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Did you get a finder with the lens - this adds a fair chunk to the value - particularly if it is the original Leica 21 finder. The S-A with serial numbers above 2,5 million did benefit from some upgraded coating and this mainly shows up in the contrast.
It is one of the classic wide-angles. Can hold it's own today. At f3.4 the corners are a bit soft - but the centre sharpness is top notch, even today. Fairly dramatic edge fall off - but before you sell it, shoot some film with it. I have had Super Angulon's since 1964 - and even though I have more modern 21's - I still keep one around, just for the very specific look that SA images have.
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I only shoot film so i will try it for sure!
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Great lens. Be sure to try it before you sell it, you might just get hooked...!

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I just bought a Leica M4-P with a 21 SUPER-ANGULON 3.4 for $850. Im not sure if I'm gonna keep the lens or not. What is the value of the black 3.4 version these days? Is there a market?
A great lens . Did it come with the finder ?
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Where can i buy a cheap 21 viewfinder? Did not get one?
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It's a stunning lens. Shoot it and give it a chance.
I bought a 21mm ZM Biogon f/2.8 then got the SA f/3.4 and sold the Biogon. The SA is just a much better lens with regard to how I personally want images to look. Zero distortion, extraordinarily sharp.
I sold my first one, like an idiot then bought a second one and used it for two years then sold it when I got out of Leica and needed the money. I've always wanted one since then though. In fact, I bought into the Mamiya 6 system just because of the 50mm symmetrical lens that is a modern variant of the Biogon formula. I also just got the Nikon version from Maitani here on RFF. It's a 2.1cm f/4 for use on the F/F2.

Use it, you won't regret anything about it other than selling it.

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Great lens. Be sure to try it before you sell it, you might just get hooked...!

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Where can i buy a cheap 21 viewfinder? Did not get one?
i recently bought a (chrome) metal voigtlaender 21/25mm finder, and i am quite pleased. it's not as bulky as the plastic finders by V/C, and much better in use compared to the leica finders that are currently available on the local used market.

you may also want to look into dirk's finder comparison on the l-camera-forum.

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I just ordered the Ricoh GV-1. It was cheap. If i really like the lens i can always get a better one!
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Where can i buy a cheap 21 viewfinder? Did not get one?
There are no cheap 21mm viewfinders .

Check cameraquest.
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The gv-1 21 was only 900 swedish kronor. About $110. Brand new.
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I just bought a Leica M4-P with a 21 SUPER-ANGULON 3.4 for $850. Im not sure if I'm gonna keep the lens or not. What is the value of the black 3.4 version these days? Is there a market?
At $850 for both I'd keep the Super Angulon. It really is one of the classic Leica lenses. There is a market for them and yo got a smoking deal.

I took this some time ago. I really need to use mine more.

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At $850 for both I'd keep the Super Angulon. It really is one of the classic Leica lenses. There is a market for them and yo got a smoking deal.

I took this some time ago. I really need to use mine more.

Nice picture!
I will try it out!
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You got a really good deal on this. Its also one of my favorite lenses. Have you checked out the work of Jeanloup Sieff? He was pretty well known for using this lens. I like his work a lot.

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I got four of them with OEM finders, 2 Chrome and 2 Black.
I also use the VC 28mm metal finder on my M8.2
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Super Angulon 21mm f3.4, orange filter. TriX, D-75 1:1 10 min.
It can be a bit tricky to find filters for the Super Angulon, you will need "thin rim" 48mm thread for it.
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Just got the camera! Both the camera and the lens was i great shape for their age! Now comes the fun part, testing it!
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It can be a bit tricky to find filters for the Super Angulon, you will need "thin rim" 48mm thread for it.
Hi Tom,
I've heard series 7 filters will also work in the hood. Is this correct?
And what do you mean "thin rim"? To avoid further vignetting?
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Hi Tom,
I've heard series 7 filters will also work in the hood. Is this correct?
And what do you mean "thin rim"? To avoid further vignetting?
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I have the series 7 filter on my lens! It fits!
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The Series 7 does work with hood - a bit fiddly to put in the hood, but they do work. The "thin" rim are needed to avoid vignetting - modern filters usually come with a substantial rim - and it can vignet. I use filters that are ntended for the old Leica 200mm f4.5 Telyt. I actually bought the lens at a swap meet because it came with a full set of yellow. orange and red filter and gave the lens to a friend. It was cheaper than trying to source the filters on its own. The lens waas rather crappy looking so I got it and the filters for $60!
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Why doesn't the 7 series filter have "screw mount "?
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because they are series 7.
series filters don't have threads.
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