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Old 01-26-2012   #1
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90mm Elmarit-M shots

Hi everybody

There's the very informative show your 90mm Summicron shots sticky, but there's no thread (I think, feel free to correct me; I've searched but only find comparison threads) for the 90mm Elmarit-M.

I love this lens, sharp and compact. Perhaps others feel the same and want to show some pix?

If not, that's ok too of course.

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Old 01-26-2012   #2
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Does the Tele-Elmarit count?
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Old 01-26-2012   #3
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Hi Hans,
Thanks for responding. Sure thing, I think so. They're kind of related, no? I considered that one before getting the Elmarit-M.
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Old 01-27-2012   #4
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The look of my photos using the tele Elmarit-M convinced me to commit to Leica.

I think sharpness is the wrong word or idea; for me it is the contrast and edge definition. On color photos, the look is like molten metal or quicksilver. I've posted this before; it's from my "Glory of Velvia" gallery at http://www.photokinesis.info/ They are pretty basic jpeg scans from NCPS where I get my Velvia developed. (That said, high-quality drum scans result in a huge improvement, especially when lighting or exposure was not optimum).



And, here is the isolated lily pad flower. Note the lovely grain consistong entirely of luminence noise.

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Those are great photos Tom. Thanks for posting. I saw the "Boat and Buoy in San Diego harbor" photo on your site. Both the water and the reflections on the side of the boat have the look you're describing. Very nice!
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One of my favourites which exemplifies the characteristics that makes me love this lens - I agree with the comment above that sharpness is not the half of it.


Rosetable by Richard GM2, on Flickr
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Old 01-27-2012   #7
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Elmarit-M 90f2.8 on a M3. This was at the Tokyo fishmarket at 5 am (I was jetlagged enough to get up that early). This was my first time in Tokyo/Japan 1995.
Neopan 1600 in Pyro developer (PMK)
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M9 with Elmarit-M 90mm f2.8







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Some shots from the first roll with the Tele-Elmarit, seems like I f*ked up the development though. From a market in Vietnam:









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Elmarit-M 90f2.8 on a M3. This was at the Tokyo fishmarket at 5 am (I was jetlagged enough to get up that early). This was my first time in Tokyo/Japan 1995.
Neopan 1600 in Pyro developer (PMK)
Hej Tom
Nice photo. Neopan 1600 is a great film. How did you scan this picture?
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Leica MP with Elmarit-M 90mm f2.8
Nice shots Dan What film did you use with the MP? I like the contrast and the grain.
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Old 01-28-2012   #15
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I ditched the CV 75/2.5 earlier this week to get something more suitable for my M3, and yesterday I found a 90/2.8 non-tele in Germany for a fair price.

I hope to get it early next week, and that the rangefinder collimation is good! At one meter f2.8, the DoF should be 2 cm or so..
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These are some really bad lab scans that I came across. I need to find the original negs to re-scan with my Nikon V ED.

A good friend had let me borrow his Elmarit-M when I was deciding on whether or not to sell my OM 85/2. It took me a few years to finally sell the OM, and when I was looking for a good Elmarit another friend let me borrow the 90/2 APO. The APO is crazy good, but definitely out of my price range. I don't mind the extra weight of the f2 as much as I thought I would. Now I am curious to read some comparisons between an Elmarit-M and a v3 90/2. They both seem to be in the same price range. Any thoughts?



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Now I am curious to read some comparisons between an Elmarit-M and a v3 90/2. They both seem to be in the same price range. Any thoughts?
I haven't used the pre-APO Summicron but considered it and the APO before getting the Elmarit-M. So other people can definitely advise you better than I can. But from my research I understood the Elmarit-M was only improved on by the APO Summicron. Two threads that helped me were this one, esp. post no. 6 which I found instructive, and this one.

Andy Piper also compared various Mandler lenses in this thread over at the Leica Forum, including that Summicron.

Perhaps you've already seen them but there are links in the Leica Forum Wiki on the pages for the pre-APO Summicron and the Elmarit-M.

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Thank you for all of the links! That is some good reading. I may go for the v3 90/2 for the extra stop. If I ever hit it big, then I can upgrade to the APO!
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Thank you for all of the links! That is some good reading. I may go for the v3 90/2 for the extra stop. If I ever hit it big, then I can upgrade to the APO!
I've stopped worrying about one extra stop. I WOULD like a 50 Summilux for the shallow depth-of-field, but the ratings on Leica lenses seem to be consistently higher on the next slowest lens.

When it comes to the 90mm length, f/2.8 gives you a nice, shallow DOF.
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Hej Tom
Nice shots Dan What film did you use with the MP? I like the contrast and the grain.
The film used was LEGACYPRO 400 35X36 B&W NEG FILM that I had purchased from Freestyle in August when they had a sale on film that had a short expiration date.
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I've stopped worrying about one extra stop. I WOULD like a 50 Summilux for the shallow depth-of-field, but the ratings on Leica lenses seem to be consistently higher on the next slowest lens.

When it comes to the 90mm length, f/2.8 gives you a nice, shallow DOF.
I took that strategy with the 50mm Summicron over the Summilux when I bought my camera. I like the "best bang for the buck" concept, and I also preferred something smaller. Well, that and I knew that the new version of the Summilux was about to arrive (this was back in '04) so I held off thinking that I could always upgrade.

I do find more often that I like having the extra stop. I've settled into rating Tri-X at 250 and pulling a bit to get better shadow detail. I've needed every stop I can get indoors.

I usually take my time making these decisions, so it may be a while before I buy. And if I win the lottery any time soon then I'll get the 50/1.4 ASPH and the 90/2 APO and stop worrying! But, I guess I gotta start playing the lottery to win it...

Until then I'll enjoy seeing more images from the Elmarit-M on this thread!
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Cool I own the first and last 90mm/2.8 Elmarit-M lenses

Original, silver & vulcanite. Fuji E-6, one of the ASA 100 versions.



And the last version. Kodachrome.



Same roll. A few minutes earlier.

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On my Summer holiday at Lorne a week ago: Ektar 100 with the Elmarit M.


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Neopan 400 developed in Microphen in 1+3 dilution [email protected] (!)
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Not the 90mm Elmarit - M, but a 90mm Tele Elmarit "fat version"

Shot at f4
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A 90mm Elmarit M is also a landscape lens.

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On my Summer holiday at Lorne a week ago: Ektar 100 with the Elmarit M.


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The beach picture from Louttit Bay has incredible contrast and colours - great! Have you done any post-processing?

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M4-P with 90 Elmarit
The tonality is great on this photo. Really nice. I've only used Neopan 1600 so I have to try the 400 version.

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Not the 90mm Elmarit - M, but a 90mm Tele Elmarit "fat version"

Shot at f4
The "fat" Tele Elmarit is really nice. What film did you use for this photo?
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Philipus, I used Ektar 100, but scanned it in black and white.
I was afraid the lens would have flare problems since I was
not using the lens hood and the sun was coming in at a very harsh angel.
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[quote=philipus;1806525]The beach picture from Louttit Bay has incredible contrast and colours - great! Have you done any post-processing?

Thanks. No post processing. It is somewhat contre jour which adds to the contrast of the figures particularly.
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Elmarit, shot with Elmarit:



Snow, captured by Elmarit:



Eriksbergskranen lushing in Elmarit bokeh:



I'm really looking forward to using this lens for portraits, but it's damn good for casual strolling around to!
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Great shots posted....liked the lens except for up close. The bokeh didn't jive with me. For landscapes though, excellent lens

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Two more....first a 16 shot pano



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I have the "fat" tele-elmarit 90/2.8. In theory, the "skinny" one that followed mine is better, but I've never been unhappy with it.

A couple portraits with it:





And I stuck it on the front of my new-to-me Visoflex III and did a little macro work with it this past weekend:
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Brilliant pix!

Jockos, nice to see a piece of home there! And I like the Sony amp in the background

rsolti - are those merged photos or crops? Excellent colours. I like the bokeh on the portrait, very dreamy rendition.

Drew, those are great portraits. I think the fat tele-elmarit is a fantastic lens.
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Thanks, they are merged in CS5. They look beautiful blown up

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Brilliant pix!

Jockos, nice to see a piece of home there! And I like the Sony amp in the background

rsolti - are those merged photos or crops? Excellent colours. I like the bokeh on the portrait, very dreamy rendition.

Drew, those are great portraits. I think the fat tele-elmarit is a fantastic lens.
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In reviewing this thread, I rediscover the contrast and "pop" that the 90 elmarit-M delivers, especially in color photos. This lens works exceptionally well in near-far situations where you want the background in soft-focus; the image retains contrast while nicely bluring the background.
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