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New discovery . . . help much needed.
Old 02-22-2007   #1
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New discovery . . . help much needed.

I think a home solution to re-adjusting the infinity alightment for Zeiss Ikon is close at hand.

I have taken apart the flash shoe, following the same procedures for the Bessa R2.
Instructions are here:
http://photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=001NhD
and here:
http://www.textklick.demon.co.uk/r2align.html

After I took off the hot shoe . . .
I looked inside, see the pic below, there is a screw inside . . . which I am so sure is there for adjusting the RF. If I turn the focus on the lens, it will turn with it. It could be reached by using one of small screw driver in the 3rd pic.

So I am sure it has something to do with the alignment.
It's too hard to a take a picture of the inside . . . the red point in the pic points to where the screw is.

Could someone figure the rest out?
Is this similar to how Leica's work?
I remember hearing someone here mention how Leica's could be adjusted wtih just one screw.


It only took me three minutes to remove the shoe and peek inside.
The tools I used was just a set of small screwdrivers . . . not harm done to camera in the process. No scratch, no nothing. It's really easy.

Now . . . does anyone have any clue?

Manfred
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Old 02-22-2007   #2
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i'm not sure but i think canned air needs to be involved... just kidding!!

that was very brave of you to start taking your zi apart.
i will wait for the next brave guy to come along to do the rest.

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Need not be brave . . . but perhaps just foolish enought?
Old 02-23-2007   #3
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Need not be brave . . . but perhaps just foolish enought?

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i'm not sure but i think canned air needs to be involved... just kidding!!

that was very brave of you to start taking your zi apart.
i will wait for the next brave guy to come along to do the rest.

joe
Well, whatever the reasons . . . I am sure the benefit outweights the harm (if any) in the long run.

Not having to pay a dime or sent it off to some repair guy and be without my camera for several times is a plus.

Anyhow . . . let's hope some experience long-time rangfinder ranger pops in and figure the rest out! And make a 'dummies' guide.


Cheers, Manfred.
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Well, since you're there, you could just try and turn this small screw and see what happens. If you're right, you're rangefinder should go out of focus either horizontally or vertically. Turn it in the opposite direction and you're back to where you started.

Thanks for the tip anyway. I will buy a ZI also pretty soon, and I am pretty sure that SOMETHING will be out of adjustment
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I haven't got a ZI and I haven't taken one apart so the usual health warning.

However, this is a common place to put an RF adjustment screw and has been used on several cameras in the past. As Horosu says, you could try it and find out. If the RF dosen't need adjusting and the screw is "locked" by varnish or Loctite, I would be wary about doing it unless it was needed.

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*drool* look at that flash sync speed....
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Which is why . . .
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Which is why . . .

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I haven't got a ZI and I haven't taken one apart so the usual health warning.

However, this is a common place to put an RF adjustment screw and has been used on several cameras in the past. As Horosu says, you could try it and find out. If the RF dosen't need adjusting and the screw is "locked" by varnish or Loctite, I would be wary about doing it unless it was needed.

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Which is why I've not touched it.
So far . . . I think my infinity is a bit off, but it's not showing in any of my photos.
Close focus is totally fine, further it does appear to have some vanish/wax on it.
So I could not bear to loosen it . . . for fear of making it worst.

Now let's hope someone with a totally out of wack RF could try it, since he is going to send it off for repairs anyway.

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Here here for someone starting a thread about figuring this ZI adjustment out. There is simply no information on the net on how this camera is adjusted. My zi is fortunately still in perfect alignment, so I'm not about to go poking around. Somebody with more guts than me should try to figure this out!
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Someone do it (turn the screw!!!) . I mean: it's just a screw, right? If it goes wrong you can always turn it in the opposite direction.

Anyway, as I said: thanks for the lead. Once I will get my hands on my ZI I will definetely try that out!!
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Someone do it (turn the screw!!!) . I mean: it's just a screw, right? If it goes wrong you can always turn it in the opposite direction.

Anyway, as I said: thanks for the lead. Once I will get my hands on my ZI I will definetely try that out!!
You know what . . . I am really good at taken things apart,
and putting it back together.

(the list includes, Notebooks, PDAs, Cellphones, Minidisc walkmans, Lens of various sorts - Carl Zeiss M42, Pentax Takumars, digicams to clean the dust)

Without showing a sign scratch, or temper . . .

I can remember lots of screws . . . here there everywhere . . .


But alignment is a different thing
Some sort of procedure . . . test needs to be worked out.
The tricky part is the very fine adjustments needed for those F1.4, F1.2 or F1 situations at a close distance.

If this was a Epson R-D1, then it would be darn easy.
At least I could see the results immediately.
But not with film.

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