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Old 01-30-2007   #1
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Creating a pinhole M camera

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Has anyone experimented with using/creating a pinhole bodycap on their M?

I would be be very appreciated to those who take time to reply with their experiences.

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Old 01-30-2007   #2
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http://www.leicagoodies.com/ make and sell M body cap pinholes but they are closed at the moment.
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Old 01-30-2007   #3
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I have made pinholes but not for a Leica, these guys have though: http://www.calumetphoto.com/item/PY2130.html

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I use one occaissionly. Works great.

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/phot...=9999&way=desc

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Old 01-30-2007   #5
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You can get one made here. Just be sure you're sitting down when you read the price!
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Old 01-30-2007   #6
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>Has anyone experimented with using/creating a pinhole bodycap on their M?

See the Alternate Spectrum exhibit info on my web site for some color infrared pinhole images taken with an M7.
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Old 01-30-2007   #7
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Well, thank you all very much for the replies.

@kbg32: You have a great collection of images within your gallery.

@AUSDLK: Must run now, but wil take more time within your galleries.

..I have just found your post within the trusty search engine.


It seems upon giving it some thought, that due to the precision build of the cameras (film plane, etc.) I don't think I am not going to obtain the artistic pinhole/Holga-like qualities I was looking for.

It will simply result in a standard out of focus image more or less.

Wouldn't this be correct?

My goal of course to simply carry a pinhole cap in my bag instead of a shoebox or tin drum and obtain similar effects....

This will not be possible due to obvious reasons as I give it more thought now.


The Leica-Goodies I viewed and a 21mm view may prove interesting. States no vignetting. Will they re-open or are they permanently cloased?

But for $45...I just don't know....

So much for convenience..better to stay with the can perhaps. (?)



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Quote:
Originally Posted by demian
Well, thank you all very much for the replies.

@kbg32: You have a great collection of images within your gallery.

@AUSDLK: Must run now, but wil take more time within your galleries.

..I have just found your post within the trusty search engine.


It seems upon giving it some thought, that due to the precision build of the cameras (film plane, etc.) I don't think I am not going to obtain the artistic pinhole/Holga-like qualities I was looking for.

It will simply result in a standard out of focus image more or less.

Wouldn't this be correct?

My goal of course to simply carry a pinhole cap in my bag instead of a shoebox or tin drum and obtain similar effects....

This will not be possible due to obvious reasons as I give it more thought now.

The Leica-Goodies I viewed and a 21mm view may prove interesting. States no vignetting. Will they re-open or are they permanently cloased?

But for $45...I just don't know....

So much for convenience..better to stay with the can perhaps. (?)

Best regards
We'll see you around...D
Holga and pinhole images are two completelt different approaches. Pinhole imagery is not out of focus. AS a matter of pinhole photography is used in many scientific applications, due to the fact everything is in "focus". The softness you see is due to the light refracting around the opening of the pinhole. Check out the links below.

http://www.pinholeresource.com/
http://www.online-arts.net/portfolio/wright/wright.html
http://www.pinhole.cz/en/gallery/
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Originally Posted by demian
Well, thank you all very much for the replies.

@kbg32: You have a great collection of images within your gallery.

@AUSDLK: Must run now, but wil take more time within your galleries.

..I have just found your post within the trusty search engine.


It seems upon giving it some thought, that due to the precision build of the cameras (film plane, etc.) I don't think I am not going to obtain the artistic pinhole/Holga-like qualities I was looking for.

It will simply result in a standard out of focus image more or less.

Wouldn't this be correct?

My goal of course to simply carry a pinhole cap in my bag instead of a shoebox or tin drum and obtain similar effects....

This will not be possible due to obvious reasons as I give it more thought now.

The Leica-Goodies I viewed and a 21mm view may prove interesting. States no vignetting. Will they re-open or are they permanently cloased?

But for $45...I just don't know....

So much for convenience..better to stay with the can perhaps. (?)

Best regards
We'll see you around...D
Holga and pinhole images are two completely different approaches. Pinhole imagery is not out of focus. As a matter of fact, pinhole photography is used in many scientific applications, due to the fact everything is in "focus". The softness you see is due to the light refracting around the opening of the pinhole. Check out the links below.

http://www.pinholeresource.com/
http://www.online-arts.net/portfolio/wright/wright.html
http://www.pinhole.cz/en/gallery/


Have fun and experiment Demian. That's what it is all about.
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Old 01-30-2007   #10
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I truly appreciate your taking time.

very informative.
best
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Old 01-30-2007   #11
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I have not used a pinhole on a rangefinder yet but I have made them for my SLR and a Super Speed Graphic 4x5.

Using a thin piece of brass that I bought from a hobby or craft store, I used a sewing needle to drill a very small hole that was probably 0.3 mm. I stuck the dull end of the needle in the eraser end of a pencil and used that for my drill by rotating the pencil and needle.

Using an old body cap, I drilled approximately a 5 mm hole in the center and taped the small piece of brass to the back of the body cap.

After a bit of experimenting, I came up with exposure times for different conditions such as sunny, cloudy bright, etc.

As stated before, pinhole photographs aren’t out of focus. They do exhibit a very nice dreamy quality and actually have infinite depth of field.

There is plenty of info on the web about constructing pinholes, estimating exposure times, etc. They are really a lot of fun and the images that you create without a lens can be really astounding.

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I got a Zero-Image 135 deluxe. It's beautifully made, hand-built camera by Zernike Au from Hong Kong. Zernike offers great service to boot. I opted for a 35mm pinhole camera. It's really tiny and fits easily in my pocket. It has a 25mm focal length and can take regular 36x24 photos or 46x24 panoramic. Most people get one of his cameras for medium format film.

Here's a link to his website:
http://www.zeroimage.com/

I just got it so I haven't had a chance to use it much. I'm still on my first test roll.

Here's some images from the ZeroImage group on flickr. Some images are quite stunning.

http://www.flickr.com/groups/zeroimage/pool/
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I bought a 28mm Leicagoodies pinhole. It works fine on my R-D1. However, seeing what I got I'm considering trying to make one by myself. M body caps are cheap, drilling a hole is easy, and making a pinhole isn't too difficult either.
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Old 01-30-2007   #14
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Ilford has a an interesting pinhole forum ..... http://www.ilfordphoto.com/photocomm...asp?FORUM_ID=8

Also Kenko of Japan makes a pinhole attachment for various cameras ......
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Old 01-31-2007   #15
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Thanks all.

"zeroimage" appears to be exactly what I am looking for.

Can use it on small telescopic tripod...ideal.

Can continue to fit all I need into the bag....

Best,
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Yes, I have the ZeroImage 135 also and recommend it. Good choice.

He's a good guy to do business with, and mine arrived within about a week.
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I've been seriously considering the ZeroImage! What a beautiful products they have! But I'm digital 99%, make that 100%, of the time now. The hassle of scanning film and getting it right is putting me off to step into specialised film-based areas (like pinhole, panoramics, 3D, MF, LF, half frame, etc.). But, dang, those ZeroImage pinholes are beautiful.
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I use a Kevin Finney Pinhole Body Cap on my M6 Classic. As shown in my sig: 30mm f/128.

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