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Old 12-28-2006   #1
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Critique #65 - Portrait

Welcome to this critique thread. Please read the purpose statement and the guidelines/ground rules regarding participation.

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The primary purpose of this thread is to provide a forum where photographers can give and receive constructive criticism on one another's photographs. By setting up some basic guidelines we hope that this thread will provide a forum where the give and take of honest constructive criticism can help us become better photographers.

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Old 12-28-2006   #2
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Please note that this new thread is for those who wanted to participate in the current Portrait Critique, but didn't get a spot.

If you have a spot in the ongoing Portrait Critique threads, please allow others take their turn.
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Old 12-31-2006   #7
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Me in too (Ray's done it too, right?) -- This thread hung in da balance for a few days.
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RD1, rokkor 40/2, cropped, feeling lucky, fill in picasa. no photoshop.

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Enter my entry.

R-D1, M-Rokkor 40/2, iso1600, 1/12 sec., probably f2.8.
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My daughter playing violin for us on X-mas day.
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Here is my image ..posted this in another thread ....but interested in your comments .....Thanx
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Ok, It looks like I'll dive in...

Gabriel:

Dynamic and visually interesting pose, looking off in the middle distance with a stance that's angled just to the right. The colours are brilliant and saturated (and serve as something of a secondary focal point) yet the skin tones appear right on.

The hand position is a bit out of place for me. Just can't explain why it doesn't feel right (not, therefore, a valid point of criticism). Also, would have aimed for a shallower DOF to emphasize the subject.

ampguy:

Pleasing OOF areas. I'm left with the feeling that the little girl is pouting and her toy rat is her best buddy right at this point. A cute moment in a child's life. Makes me think of similar emotions in my own child.

I'm not sure who the subject here is, especially since the focus point appears to be the rat's eye. As one of my coworkers said (though, admittedly, not a photographer) "what's with the rat?"


RML:

"Concentration" would be an apt title here. She is really absorbed in the moment. Exposure is good, focus accurate.

I'd like to see some movement or a sense of movement. She is, after all, playing a violin. I want to be able to "hear" the playing.

Shiro_Kuro:

Aloof, distant, unapproachable are what come to mind looking at the Geisha. The blur is perfect for the image as she looks even more far away. Her expression is of stoicism.

Distracting background and foreground. The apparently metal railings don't seem to belong with such an 19th century (at least to my Western mind) tradition. Though the obliquely angled railing does serve to help bring my eye back to the subject.
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@Gabriel..... Very nice colors and look in her eye and use of light .... The focus point seems to be on the leading shoulder perhaps more sharpness on her face ...she has wonderful eyes and I think it would make difference in this portrait to see the sharpness in her eyes... something about her position in the photograph seems out of balance .... my eyes get pulled down to the bottom of the image....
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@RML..... Great shot of your daughter ..... The look on her face and her hand position and the slight movement of the bow ...I get a sense of her confidence and grace playing the violin .. I can see a little bit of light on the right side of her face .. I think maybe if there were more light on her face and a bit more detail in the sweater ... would make this image come more alive
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@Ampguy.... I think think this is a well captured moment ... I like the way she seems unaware of you yet you are so close ...The image allows the viewer to share in this moment without intruding ....she and her rat seem mesmerized by something .... my nephew has the same look when he is watching tv : )
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@visiondr..... nice shot ....a boy and his wheels ..... He looks proud ... Color and your use of dof works well in this image .... the only thing I can critique is you you cut the wheel on the wagon : ) maybe if you took one step back .. I think if you gave him a bit more space ...
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I like the natural, casual feeling, and the framing and placement of the eyes on the frame look appropriate with what's presented. I would balance the color temperature (some more blue/violet) to get rid of the yellow-greenish cast.

The prominent appearance of the toy rat must mean something, and we are to assume that there is some sort of relationship between the girl and the toy that is more than mere ownership.
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The main subject is centered on the frame, and there is proper space between the head and feet to the edges of the frame. This is what I would say is more of an "environmental portrait", for here we have a young, small boy with a toy, outside in what appears to be a garden, very possibly where he spends a lot of time playing. It would have been a good thing if one of the wheels had been fully inside the frame.
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My daughter playing violin for us on X-mas day.
I like the diagonal from the face down the violin, but unfortunately the scroll is cut off the frame. The use of sensor noise is use effectively in this monochrome photograph, so the choice to use B&W was not only for aesthetic purposes, but to make use of a situation to one's advantage, and add "character" to the feel of the photograph.

The focus is evidently on her face, and that stands out, so we are looking at her, and not her playing, which is secondary, as is the Christmas tree in the background, situating the shot.
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I think this is a magnificent use of blur. I'm sure there would be many people that would complain that the face is not in focus, that you can't see the face, that nothing is sharp. Mediocre this shot is not, and will not please its unlikeness.

This engages the viewer to focus, to see the subject. The light, the shades. All is not concrete, but we know what it is. We know what it is not. So evocative and teasing, as if the photographer is communicating through...art.

And art is forgotten when people look for sharpness, for adherence to strict little rules, for simple, fast satisfaction and noncomplications. Yet, this is so simple.

Well done. It is a portrait. Who? Hard to say exactly, but I like what I see, and both my right and left brain are satisfied.
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visiondr - nice shot of a youngster with his wagon. It looks like he is happy and ready for a day's full of play with the wagon. Nice and sharp, with a pleasing background.

RML - nice b&w portrait of your daughter in front of the tree. It looks like she is concentrating on playing her best. A very nice photo.

shiro_kuro - very dreamy photo, the blur makes it like a painting, soft and abstract, very nice.

Gabriel - Nice contrasty colors, very sharp and a nice clean background, excellent.
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ampguy: it took me a while to get used to this shot. It disturbed me. After having looked at it for some time, however, I look at it differently. The girl's expression is great: absent from the world, yet focused (probably on a tv program or such). The rat on her shoulder doesn't bother her, as if it always lives there. The rat seems to be looking at the same thing as the girl. There's a story for everyone in that shot. The shot makes me wonder and imagine.
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visiondr: nicely balanced shot, great colours and a wonderful expression on the boy's face. The only little niggle is the lack of a fourth wheel. A great detail, though, is the boy's huge eyes. They draw you in the shot and lead you to his smile. The smile pulls my view up again to his eyes. And so on.
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