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01-24-2005
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My M5s need red dots!
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Eight bids, two days left on this poor thing...
I think somebody at Photo.net linked THIS AUCTION and called it "the poor man's Leica."
It's not a good thing... If it were a movie it'd be R-rated.
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01-24-2005
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Ubiquitous Fella
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OH MY GOD!!!
There are people actually bidding on this.
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01-24-2005
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It might not be as bad as it looks. The shutter still fires and the curtains are okay. Cosmetic damage. The lens looks crooked but if you look closely it's just the hood that's askew. I'd gamble $100 on it. Just needs a CLA and a little scrubbing. It's a grunge Leica. Anti-fashion statement. Not for fondling. For the photog who doesn't baby his camera. Recover it in Japanese gold.
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01-24-2005
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So this is worth more than a good FED 2? Those Leica people! 
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01-24-2005
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i would've gotten it for the camera graveyard i just started, but class supplies just cut into my funds. argh, would have made a great addition.
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01-24-2005
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Film is the other way
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I'd put it in a nice place over my desk along with a couple of other "maxed" thinks I have (bamboo fishing rods, old fishing reels)
I just think it looks very cool.
Jan
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01-24-2005
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I'm sure some eBay vendors would have described this as "Minty"!
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01-24-2005
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Just live it.
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I might just be tempted to put in a bid.
Like Frank says, this could be not so bad after all.
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01-24-2005
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photoholic imaginist
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If the seller had made up a story that it was recovered by troops and most likely had belonged to the famous photo journalist bla. bla. he would probably have made a fortune - perhaps firering a bullet trough it could help authenticate the story :-)
That a side - leica might be good but once metal is heated to this amount precision is gone - no way of knowing what curled what way.
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01-25-2005
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Interesting note, I think somebody at PN mentioned this, look at the plastic parts on the body/lens. Frame illuminator window, red dot on lens, plastic tip on advance lever, this thing didn't get too much heat, otherwise all those parts would be completely melt down.
I'm even thinking of giving it a try 
Last edited by taffer : 01-25-2005 at 00:30.
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01-25-2005
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Richard Tillis is VERY honest; no made up stories. I wish he had brought it to the camera show last week, he probably would have sold it flat out to cover the price of his table. He sold me a VERY EARLY Nikon F2 with DP1 untested/asis/needs work for $75 AFTER I told him it was a pre-production model. A few hours of cleaning up, layer of-dirt off the mirror, new foam, focus screen, battery, and straigtening the rewind shaft it is now ready to use.
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01-25-2005
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5000 & call it a day!
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this is crazy  Thanks for the link!
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01-25-2005
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Amazing. I wonder where KEK would grade this on their famous scale. This is beyond UG that's for sure. UG--? 
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01-25-2005
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5000 & call it a day!
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Well, there are marks on the glass surfaces which certailny will influence image quality.
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01-25-2005
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My M5s need red dots!
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Let's face it, the camera body isn't that far gone... If the shutter works, you'd probably need new curtains and a major cleaning and recalibration. The cosmetic aspect would be taken care of with paint (after cleaning the charred parts). But then, you're left with a body... and a bill that amounts what you would have paid for a "user" condition camera.
Now, the lenses are really goners. And that's sad... See the front element in the 'cron 50? And what about the 135?
BTW, I linked it because of the photos. I'm glad Brian knows the seller. At least my sixth sense was right, as I sensed he wasn't lying.
Any bidders here? 
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01-25-2005
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Just live it.
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Ya, I'm gonna bid on it. I have a few ideas for decorating the poor *******. 
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01-25-2005
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Trying to get it right
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I wonder what it smells like.
-Paul
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01-25-2005
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Just live it.
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Paul, I'll let you know when I've won the bidding. 
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01-25-2005
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Burned out cameras do not smell very good. Take some old plastic and drop it into the fireplace. wait for it to go out, then start sniffing.
My worst Ebay win: "I see no reason why this camera will not work"... Well, the insides were melted. No direct flame damage, and I actually got the lens working again. I got 1/2 of my money back.
The amazing thing is that I have seen salvageable Leica's go for not too much more than this one will wind up.
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01-26-2005
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The price this is going for is starting to get stupid.
I thought that I might bid, not imagining that it would go much over $100, but it's now over $160 with a day and a half to go! - I paid not that much more recently for a perfectly working IIc and a Leica multiple VF - definitely the better buy!
A real shame, as it would have been an excellent _long_ term fix-up job, as it looks like the body is salvagable - with cameraleather.com it could have looked very good.
If any of you do win, I have spotted here on UK ebay a tray of Leica parts that looks like it could come in very handy for this job.
You are bidding on a well engineered doorstop, slightly singed odour...
David
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01-26-2005
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I wouldn't be surprised if the bidders on this don't actually buy the camera. Just bumping the price up to have a laugh. You can't blame the shop for trying to get a couple bucks for it, but seriously, why would anyone buy it?
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01-26-2005
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Just live it.
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As iMacFan said, long-term restore job.
But no way I'm gonna pay $160 for it. I had a private limit of 100 euros AT THE MOST. I'm out.
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01-26-2005
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Well whoever gets this better not send it to Essex with the Online Estimate for repair! Someone who restores cameras, paints them, etc, has a ton of parts, sure. But this price is beyond what someone like that would pay. Anybody think it will break $300?
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01-26-2005
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For 100 euros I'd have got it as well, but now it's clearly insane. One could consider how these 'famous' actions that get reference on one or two huge traffic forums (such as RFF  ) usually go out of the reasonable.
A Canon P would not only be completely unaffected, it would have put down the fire on its own, and then still have time to save the couple of lenses and the omnipresent little kitty.
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01-26-2005
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> A Canon P would not only be completely unaffected, it would have put down the fire on its own
OH Yes! I remember now! Gulliver used a Canon P to put out the fire in Lilliput.
I used my Canon F1 with the THORIUM GLASS 58mm F1.2 lens to melt the snow on my driveway. Pictures Coming.
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