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Old 09-14-2006   #1
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Hood for Rigid Summicron 50/2

I'm looking for a hood for my rigid summicron 50/2. What hoods will fit this lens? Does anybody have one they'd be intereted in selling?

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Old 09-14-2006   #2
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http://cgi.ebay.com/39MM-VENTED-META...QQcmdZViewItem
Excellent hood at a great price. Stu
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Old 09-15-2006   #3
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I'll 2nd Stu's recommendation of a regular vented 39mm screw-in hood (there's an ebay seller named heavystar who also sells them for cheap). When I had a Dual Range (I now have a regular Rigid), I used the "official" Leitz 12585 clip-on & while it certainly did the job & could be stored on the lens reversed (there's a special lens cap that fits over the hood when it's reversed, too), I found the 12585 to be overly large & the clip-on mechanism to be a PITA (I'm a keep the hood on the lens all the time kind of guy).

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I'm looking for a hood for my rigid summicron 50/2. What hoods will fit this lens? Does anybody have one they'd be intereted in selling?

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Old 09-16-2006   #5
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Slightly off-topic, but:

can these cheap hoods be used together with a filter, or do I need to buy the (expensive) clip-on one?
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Old 09-16-2006   #6
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Slightly off-topic, but:

can these cheap hoods be used together with a filter, or do I need to buy the (expensive) clip-on one?
Yes, 39mm filter on the lens, then screw-in hood on filter.

I like keeping the hood on too. That is my main objection with the otherwise great inexpensive hoods on ebay. I personally like B+W's thick collapsible rubber hood for ease of use.
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Old 09-17-2006   #7
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Yes, 39mm filter on the lens, then screw-in hood on filter.

I like keeping the hood on too. That is my main objection with the otherwise great inexpensive hoods on ebay. I personally like B+W's thick collapsible rubber hood for ease of use.
UNLESS...you have a Leitz E39 filter with NO front threads! Been there. Didn't get the hood on.

Check your filters. If they have threads, the 39mm hoods will work.
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Old 09-17-2006   #8
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Yes, 39mm filter on the lens, then screw-in hood on filter.

I like keeping the hood on too. That is my main objection with the otherwise great inexpensive hoods on ebay. I personally like B+W's thick collapsible rubber hood for ease of use.
I, too, like B+W's thick collapsible rubber hood. So, not to challenge ray_g's opinion, but I later decided to swap it out for one of the inexpensive hoods off ebay. Reason being that I like to be able to slip my camera into my carry-around camera bag and be able to quickly pull it out and be ready for a shot when the situation arises. (note that I'm talking about when I'm walking around town, not when I'm putting the camera bag away for the night) And the concern I had with the B+W collapsible hood is that it doesn't provide the front lens element any protection when I slip the camera back into the bag whereas the inexpensive solid hood does. Hope this explanation makes sense. Oh, and I found that a 48mm snap-cap covers fits nicely into the front of the inexpensive sloping front solid hood so I still put a cap on when putting the camera bag away for the night. Sorta the best of both worlds, although the solid hood does add significant length to the overall lens profile which might be a challenge for some camera bags.

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Back from the dead, nearly 10 years after the OP! (sorry).

I have been scouring the forums looking for an answer to this same question—effectively all the answers seem to be from the same year (2006). This doesn't make them less worthy, but as it seems, the B+W collapsable hood appears to now be out of production.

Really though, I really would like to know if anyone can elaborate on the ebay replacement hoods and/or any kind of hood that may work with a filter on the lens.

My conundrums:
My lens came with the 12585 clip on hood. It's a nice design, I like it, it does the job. The two problems I have are:
1. The lens hood "cap"feels a bit loose regardless of which way I put it on (over the back or the front).
2. I can't use the hood full stop if I have a filter on the lens (it just wont fit over the filter to clip in).

Now the first problem I think I could probably sort out with a little mod to the cap itself (not that I want to go that route, but it's doable). The real issue here is that I don't want to be walking along and lose the cap like I have so many times with my flimsy 21mm/2.8 Elmarit rubber lens cover thing (14041).

The second issue is a much bigger one. It seems from this thread that the solution is to ditch the Leica hood and instead buy a thread hood from ebay and screw it into a threaded filter (which leaves issue 1) above, but at least the lens has some protection).

Is this still the preferred solution for those of you out there with this lens? I read somewhere that using B+W MRC Nano filters would work with this hood. Can anyone verify this?

Sorry for the long winded explanation—just wanted to make sure it was all clear (I hope it was). Thanks in advance for any advice.

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Kitz -

I've got the vented metal hood (from heavystar?) I bought years ago for my rigid v2 Summicron. Minimal interference with the 50 framelines on my M2 and great protection for the front of the lens. Much better than a flexible rubber hood for this purpose. I also have a B+W MRC 39mm filter which goes between the lens and hood. Works perfectly - no problems at all.
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fwiw, I use this with my 50mm Summicron V3. It keeps the lens compact (same diameter at both ends as the lens barrel) allows for a 39mm 'threaded at both ends' filter and a snap-on 39mm Leica or generic lens cap. No extra interference with the finder window frame lines. Yes, it's small but provides enough flare protection (at least in my applications.) Made in Germany, all metal, robust, etc...
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Thanks both for the input, much appreciated.

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Kitz -

I've got the vented metal hood (from heavystar?) I bought years ago for my rigid v2 Summicron. Minimal interference with the 50 framelines on my M2 and great protection for the front of the lens. Much better than a flexible rubber hood for this purpose. I also have a B+W MRC 39mm filter which goes between the lens and hood. Works perfectly - no problems at all.
So you screw the Heavystar lens hood into the MRC filter then? Had you ever tried to make this work with the original hood by chance? Just curious. I haven't tried it with an MRC yet.

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Kitz -

fwiw, I use this with my 50mm Summicron V3. It keeps the lens compact (same diameter at both ends as the lens barrel) allows for a 39mm 'threaded at both ends' filter and a snap-on 39mm Leica or generic lens cap. No extra interference with the finder window frame lines. Yes, it's small but provides enough flare protection (at least in my applications.) Made in Germany, all metal, robust, etc...
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...etal_Lens.html
Excellent solution here, thanks Vertov. Heliopan must have owned the original and had the same issues at some point!
So, same question, before you bought this hood, had you ever tried it with the Leica hood? I'm really curious if there is indeed a solution to continue using the one I have or it really is just a design flaw.

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How about the IROOA hood? Just wondering... it's like the 12585, but without cutouts. I like it, and it won't fall off the lens, and it also allows filters.

Just my humble contribution. I've never been too keen on the heavystar hoods, but that's just me.
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Thanks both for the input, much appreciated.



So you screw the Heavystar lens hood into the MRC filter then? Had you ever tried to make this work with the original hood by chance? Just curious. I haven't tried it with an MRC yet.
Yep - filter on the lens first and the hood screws to the front of the filter. Never owned the original Leica hood, so I can't comment on how it would work.
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fwiw, I use this with my 50mm Summicron V3. It keeps the lens compact (same diameter at both ends as the lens barrel) allows for a 39mm 'threaded at both ends' filter and a snap-on 39mm Leica or generic lens cap. No extra interference with the finder window frame lines. Yes, it's small but provides enough flare protection (at least in my applications.) Made in Germany, all metal, robust, etc...
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...etal_Lens.html
I use that too, and it works great.

I have the 12585 as well, and it fits over B+W, Leica and Hoya filters. Some filters (Rodenstock and Heliopan) don't fit the 12585 since they are fatter.

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Excellent solution here, thanks Vertov. Heliopan must have owned the original and had the same issues at some point!
So, same question, before you bought this hood, had you ever tried it with the Leica hood? I'm really curious if there is indeed a solution to continue using the one I have or it really is just a design flaw.

Thanks again.
Yes, I had the original Leica hood (came with the lens when I bought it used.) For me, it's too big and clumsy; reversing it, clipping it on/off, cap always too loose, etc.. The Heliopan is very, very small and is the same 39mm diameter as the lens. It looks like it's part of the lens with simply an added small extension. It screws onto a B+W or Heliopan filter. A filter can also be screwed onto the end of the hood (there are threads on both sides of the hood) but I would think you could then get flare off the filter (?) I use it with filter first and then hood with a snap-on cap.

The Leica 39mm snap-on caps are slightly wider than 39mm overall and they look a little weird but the Chinese made generic 39mm plastic snap-on caps are smaller overall (and are way cheaper of course.) I carry a couple of cheap generics instead of using (and potentially losing) the more expensive Leica branded caps.
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fyi, here are a couple of iPhone snaps so you can see the Heliopan hood mounted on the lens (with a B+W filter mounted between the lens and hood)......
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I use the IR00A hood. It is elegant looking and functional and it is a Leica hood.
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I like the Leica 12585H Hood but it's expensive... The Chinese made screw on hoods are OK but I hate having to screw them on.
If they had a snap on version I'd go for that.
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I use the IR00A hood. It is elegant looking and functional and it is a Leica hood.
The IR00A is very well made and a great option but if you want a nice one they're very expensive.
I have one and the thickness of the paint is incredible. I do use it but because of its value I feel reluctant.
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I have one in user condition and one that looks like it is unused. The nice one is kept inside its box.
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I have a soft spot for the following hood which has an eBay number 281081773845. It has a 43 mm diameter mount so a 39-43mm stepping ring is required to fit it on a Summicron. It looks much, much better on the lens than it appears in the eBay photo. It is a lens hood that I use on a wide range of lenses including a 43mm f 1.4 Voightlander, a 50mm f 1.5 Summarit and even a 35 mm f3.5 Summaron and a 90mm Tele elmarit f 2.8. It both looks and performs well on every lens in this range, even the wide angle ones thanks to its 43mm diameter which prevents vignetting. It is also very sturdy. I can recommend it as an option.
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Thanks for the tip, Peter
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No problems Raid. I should have mentioned that I also use it on my 50mm Summicron and it looks great (I think). I have both original Leica vented hood and an early style hood for 35mm and 50mm lenses but I tend to use this one instead partly because its not so large as the others and partly because I do not wish to damage the other Leica hoods, which are more or less pristine.
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I have a Leica vented hood, but it couldn't survive in my bag (dents) so I got one of the $4 Ebay screw-in hoods, which is much tougher and really nicely made. I do wish I could buy exactly the same thing without vents, though, and then I'd use a cap right on the hood. instead of taking it off.
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