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09-07-2006
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street photography the video ;)
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09-07-2006
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With all due respect, I think this is bull****! 57th and 5th? A dog walker? Yeah, interesting. Gimme a break. Meyerowitz had chosen one of the safest street corners and areas to photograph in NYC. It is one of the centers of monied people and tourists in NY. They tend to move out of the way and cover up when confronted with a camera. Let him try that on upper Broadway or the corner of 125th and St. Nicholas Avenue in Harlem. Or Bushwick. He would get an entirely different response. We would see who would make whom invisible.
This kind of bull**** makes me as angry as sitting through a Ralph Gibson lecture.
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09-07-2006
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Excuse me for the rant.
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09-07-2006
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Thanks for the post. That was entertaining!
His photos were pretty boring though. Maybe that's his style...
kbg32...I know what you mean about Ralph Gibson lectures. 
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09-07-2006
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what...no freakin "F" words? pfffft...what an amatuer
thanks for the link.
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09-07-2006
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He certainly seems to have a pretty high opinion of what he's doing. I'm sorry I dont share it.
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09-07-2006
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To think, he became the "official" photographer of 9/11. Unlimited access to the clean-up of the site.
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09-07-2006
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Yeah, I say you want a real street photography challenge? Come to the Twin Cities, where carrying a camera is like carrying a Colt.
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09-07-2006
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well, i never said it was good 
i find it quite amusing...not really more.
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09-07-2006
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Thank you so much.
I havnet had such a laugh in a long time.
Being sent to everyone I know who shoots!!!
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09-07-2006
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Sorry I couldn't see him ... all in black, moving so fast ... he was invisible altogether!!! 
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09-07-2006
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Ignore It (It'll go away)
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i listened to most of it, looking at it here and there. i found the all-black outfit funny, but on the whole I kind of liked it (not the outfit). i like meyerowitz' work, aside from the 9/11 stuff.
Thanks for the link.

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09-07-2006
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Why r u guys all hatin' on him? He's a good photographer..
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09-07-2006
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My Red Dot Glows For You
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Originally Posted by ywenz
Why r u guys all hatin' on him? He's a good photographer..
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I didn't say anything about his photography or his ability as a photographer. How does him being a good photographer make the video any good?
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09-07-2006
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Yes, he is a good photographer. Street photographer - no. Joel first gained recognition for his color street work, but then he moved on to Cape Light, Redheads, Tuscany, etc.. He might still do street work, maybe that's where his interests really are, but his overall work is anything but the street. I believe people know him more for making pretty images of accessible subjects.
The video makes him look like a parody of himself.
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09-07-2006
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I really like his street stuff, it's very good. His other stuff, I don't care that much about and the all-black outfit, I'm really not sure about that... I would find it rather scary if a guy like that took a pic of me in the street!!
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09-07-2006
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Ignore It (It'll go away)
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He got some pretty "meyerowitz"-like images during this video, assuming what they were showing as his images actually were from his camera. Heck, I'm going shopping for a black beenie after dinner tonight.
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09-07-2006
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Reciprocity Failure
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"I can bob and weave and become invisible"
Right... like a New York Ninja.
Poor Joel. But still, I applaud what he was trying to do in the making of this video. E for Effort.
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09-07-2006
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Really fun to watch. No new tricks, but it is not about tricks now, is it.
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09-07-2006
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I Shoot Film
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Originally Posted by kbg32
Yes, he is a good photographer. Street photographer - no. Joel first gained recognition for his color street work, but then he moved on to Cape Light, Redheads, Tuscany, etc.. He might still do street work, maybe that's where his interests really are, but his overall work is anything but the street. I believe people know him more for making pretty images of accessible subjects.
The video makes him look like a parody of himself.
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I have nothing against him, but I pretty agree with what Kbg32 said: he's a good photographer for sure but not a good street photographer. He's even better with a large format camera than with a Leica; and , as an artist, he's known for (urban) landscape photography not for street photography. Would you listen to a lecture on how make landscape photography with a large format camera à la Anselm Adam ... given by HCB?? I guess it would be funny, not serious.
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09-07-2006
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Originally Posted by kbg32
To think, he became the "official" photographer of 9/11. Unlimited access to the clean-up of the site.
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Come on, give him a break. His Ground Zero photos are good.
As for the video being shot at 57th and 5th and not somewhere in Harlem. First of all just because that's where he chose to record the video it doesn't have to mean he always goes where it's "safe" (I don't know, though. Just giving him the benefit of the doubt).
IMHO street photography doesn't necessarily have to be done in dangerous places and IF you can make interesting pictures on 5th av. then there's nothing wrong with that.
Having said that, I don't think there were a whole lot of interesting pictures amongst the one they showed and why he followed the people carrying the chair for so long is a mystery to me.
There where a few things in the video that were quite ridiculous but also a lot of advice that, although nothing new for most people here on this forum, is good for people who want to get into street photography and don't know how to start. I visit the forum on fredmiranda.com from time to time and every once in a while someone asks about pointers on street photography and people start giving advice about using 200mm or 300mm (or even longer!) lenses! It's good to show people that street photography is about getting close, not hiding in the bushes.
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09-08-2006
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He sure makes it look more exciting than it is ... and pretty dangerous too ....
Unfortunately i also have nothing with Meyerowitz at all ........ i looked at a couple of his books over and over again .... but his photography leaves me cold ...
he must have something giving his authority ... i just never saw it.
Last edited by J. Borger : 09-08-2006 at 00:42.
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09-08-2006
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Hehe, excellent, thank you for the link! I loved the moment when he gets couple kissing each other from back 
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09-08-2006
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cripes, why is everyone surprised about the quality of the photos he took in probably an hour? there are dozens of street photoblogs and online galleries where people don't produce anything particularly good for years and years.
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09-08-2006
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I really don`t understand the negative vibe from you guys, what is the problem? very entertening and he definetly has very good shots! I mean common, sense the positive too! not only negative side of the film 
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