FSU lenses 'bokeh' comparisson

Spyderman · 07-09-2006

Hi,

I wanted to compare my lenses regarding bokeh, and I'd like to share the results with you guys.

The model is my beautiful and beloved girlfriend. She was so nice, and had a lot of patience with me...

I compared the lenses I have at the moment: Industar 61 50mm, Jupiter 8 50mm, another Jupiter 8 with terribly scratched front element, and Jupiter 9 85mm.

I will post the 50mm lenses at each f-stop together, and then the 85.

EDIT: Attached photos were replaced with better color ballanced ones (I used manual expsure setting on my scanner).

Spyderman · 07-09-2006

Both Jupiter 8s at f2:

J8 @ f2

for the scratched J-8 see attached image.

Spyderman · 07-09-2006

Industar 61, Jupiter 8, and attached is the scratched Jupiter 8 at f2.8

Sorry for different subject distance

I61 @ f2.8

J8 @ f2.8

for the scratched J-8 see attached image.

Spyderman · 07-09-2006

Industar 61, Jupiter 8, scratched Jupiter 8 at f4

Again, sorry for different subject distance.

I61 @ F4

J8 @ f4

Spyderman · 07-09-2006

Industar 61, Jupiter 8 at f5.6

And sorry for the different subject distance...

I61 @ f5.6

J8 @ f5.6

Spyderman · 07-09-2006

Now the Jupiter 9:

Set 1
@ f2 (seems incrrectly focussed)

and @ f4

Set 2
@ f2 (again, seems incrrectly focussed)

and @ f4

Spyderman · 07-09-2006

PS: I especially like the scratched J8 at f4 shot (becuse it's so dreamy), and the J9 at f4 (because is's sooo sharp)

nikola · 07-09-2006

nice job, the last one also looks nice

Pherdinand · 07-09-2006

your model is indeed beautiful! It must be a pleasure to test your equipment on such a "subject".

Valkir1987 · 07-09-2006

How badly is this Jupiter scratched? I have an Industar 50 on my Zorki with some scratches on it, havent really tested it yet. I know one spot ore scratch doesnt matter much, but the almost new Industar 50 on my zenit seems to be better.

xayraa33 · 07-09-2006

the I- 61 has preformed very nicely.

Silva Lining · 07-09-2006

This is a great test Spyderman, I like the Jupiter 9 at f4 best. To my eye, the Industar 61 is sharper than the Jupiter 8 but the Jupiter has nicer Bokeh! Which was your favourite?

Ash · 07-09-2006

brilliant comparison. Much thanks

StuartR · 07-09-2006

I really liked the Industar 61! It has a really nice character to it. It is sharpish, but the way it renders her face is really nice.

Spyderman · 07-09-2006

Quote:

It must be a pleasure to test your equipment on such a "subject".

It surely is

Quote:

How badly is this Jupiter scratched?

Imagine giving a lens to a child, to play with it in the sand. That kind of damage is very close to reality. The front element is just like cleaned with sandpaper

It's a '61 silver example, and has only 3 (!) aperture blades instead of 9. The rest was removed by previous owner

Quote:

Which was your favourite?

I think the Jupiter 85 is an absolutely gorgeous lens. Also very underrated. The shots at f2 were not very satisfying, but at f4 it's just sooo sharp.

I also notices that Sonnar type lenses tend to give out-of-focus highlights with stronger edges when wide open. When stopped down by one stop, the out-of-focus highlights just smoothen out.

The Jupiter 8 has this "classic Sonnar" look of out-of-focus highlights at f2 and f2.8 in corners.
But in the 50mm range I prefer the look of the Industar 61. Already at f2.8 it's so sharp (notice the picture). I like that picture, becuse of the shallow DOF - only her face and some hairs are in focus! Wow!

leica M2 fan · 07-09-2006

I agree the f4 shot on the scratched Jupiter is VERY nice and the J-9 at
f2 and f4 are absolutely great.

lubitel · 07-10-2006

Nice test! Its funny I just did a similar test with my wife as a subject, comparing different lenses. Havent posted it yet though. And those shots with a scratched lens look really good! I got try it on a J-3... or may be not.

Macpod · 07-10-2006

Leica glow! ahahaha. cant resist. 3 aperture blades eh. damn

fidget · 07-10-2006

Nice tests, thanks for posting.
Do you know if it's the scratches which gives such a large change in the colour rendition of the J8 (scratched) images?

pcfranchina · 07-10-2006

Definetly impressed with the I61. I never use mine. Anyone ever use them with a Bessa?

ampguy · 07-10-2006

I like both the I61 and Jupiter. I think your "scratched" Jupiter may have also been dropped, kicked, hazed, and fungusized

fwiw, the I61 has some attributes of the rokkor 40/2.

brachal · 07-10-2006

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Originally Posted by pcfranchina

Definetly impressed with the I61. I never use mine. Anyone ever use them with a Bessa?

The I61 is my "go to" 50mm. I love the sharpness and contrast. I'm waiting to get the first roll shot with my new Jupiter-3 back; we'll see if I still feel the same after that!

The I61 gives great results on my Bessa R. This is one of my favorites with that combo:

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/phot...00&ppuser=2935

lubitel · 07-10-2006

I have 2 or 3 I-61s and all of them are way off with focus on my Bessa R

But I like J-3 and J-8

morgan · 07-10-2006

[quote=brachal]The I61 is my "go to" 50mm. I love the sharpness and contrast. I'm waiting to get the first roll shot with my new Jupiter-3 back; we'll see if I still feel the same after that!

I'm awaiting my first roll back with my bessa-r and I61. I also just got a j-3 (from Yuri) and I got some shots back yesterday, I only took a few with it, but they came back great. It's a nice lens.

I feel like my I61 is a little softer than the j-3, it has a great feel to it. The j-3 is more versatile. Which I take with me will probably depend on conditions.

Spyderman · 07-11-2006

Please, don't scratch your lenses if you want some 'Jupiter glow'

Buy a cheap 'softener' or 'cross/star' filter instead, or maybe make your own by scratching a cheap UV

On the other hand, if you already have a scratched lens - don't be afraid to use it

It might give you some interesting results - just like mine.