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Old 05-12-2006   #1
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Q: re Reala 100

I hit two Toronto camera stores today and at both they told me that Reala 100 is now called Superia Reala 100, but is the same film in a different package. I picked up some anyway and can't remember what the box said last time. Is this indeed the Reala 100 that many of you love and recommend?

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Fuji chop and change the exact name over time and between markets. Reala is always their 'in between' film. In between amateur and professional, although plenty of professionals use it as a day to day film.

You can try their site for information but you soon get going round in circles trying to work out the exact naming on the film.
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I just checked the Fuji Global site http://www.fujifilm.com/products/con...lm/lineup.html and it looks like Reala is now called Superia Reala. It is the only Reala listed. It is not listed as a pro film.

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Fujifilm Canada used to list Superia Reala as its consumer film and Reala as the pro film. It now lists Superia Reala in both.
I have been led to believe they are (and were) the same film, the only difference being a shorter date on the "pro" version.

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Thanks for the quick replies! It looks as if I picked up the right stuff. They couldn't make it much more confusing, could they? They must be taking lessons from Kodak

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Forgot to add: I also picked up a couple of rolls of Ilford Pan F. Never used it before. I'll soup it in Rodinal. Those who use it, do you rate it at a full 50, or do you go with 40 or 25? Just looking for a good starting point.

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Thanks for the quick replies! It looks as if I picked up the right stuff. They couldn't make it much more confusing, could they? They must be taking lessons from Kodak

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Took the words out of my mouth and I find it just as annoying as Kodak doing it.

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'Fuji Superia Reala Pro Royal Xtra Gold' launches next month.

The film is the same but the boxes are bigger because of the long product name.
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I shoot Pan F plus at 30 if I'm spot metering. if I were average metering, I'd probably shoot at 25. This is for Rodinal 1+50.

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Originally Posted by Jon Claremont
'Fuji Superia Reala Pro Royal Xtra Gold' launches next month.

The film is the same but the boxes are bigger because of the long product name.
Cute - don't let Kodak get wind of this idea or we'll all be cursed with double length boxes when the marketing gurus do a study that shows a bigger box means a better product.
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I shoot Pan F plus at 30 if I'm spot metering. if I were average metering, I'd probably shoot at 25. This is for Rodinal 1+50.

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Thanks Allan,

I was leaning towards 25 as a starting point. Thanks for the confirmation.

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Gene: I agree to rate Pan F a bit generously, but my guess is you'll end up at 40, 32 "tops" for most scenes. Since you scan rather than print with light, lens & "real" paper, you probably won't need the extra density for most situations.

Break out the tripod, pardner!
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Gene: I agree to rate Pan F a bit generously, but my guess is you'll end up at 40, 32 "tops" for most scenes. Since you scan rather than print with light, lens & "real" paper, you probably won't need the extra density for most situations.

Break out the tripod, pardner!
Paper? What's 'paper'?

Thanks Earl, I'll have to experiment a bit. And definitely this is tripod stuff (although an awful lot of people seemed to have shot Kodachrome ASA 10 hand held with the Argus C3's). I've not used film this slow in a long, long time -- it'll be fun.

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Paper? What's 'paper'?

Thanks Earl, I'll have to experiment a bit. And definitely this is tripod stuff (although an awful lot of people seemed to have shot Kodachrome ASA 10 hand held with the Argus C3's). I've not used film this slow in a long, long time -- it'll be fun.

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I love using slow film because of the shallow DOF it can afford. Sometimes even a medium speed film like Portra seems way too fast.
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Hmphf. I scan, too. You _always_ want density in the shadows, and that's exposure. Density in the highlights is controlled by development :-)

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Just checked my "freezer stash".

My version has a logo that blares: REALA - but with a smaller print: superia - on top of it.

It looks like this....
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Originally Posted by Jon Claremont
'Fuji Superia Reala Pro Royal Xtra Gold' launches next month.

The film is the same but the boxes are bigger because of the long product name.
Jon, in Canada the boxes are estimated to be 20 cm long (approx 5") for one fllm cassette, due to the need to put both French and English on the box, Mandarin may be necessary shortly.

I'd go long suppliers of paper products say Abitibi Price; the stock is sure to climb once the old packaging stock is used up.
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I hit two Toronto camera stores today and at both they told me that Reala 100 is now called Superia Reala 100, but is the same film in a different package. I picked up some anyway and can't remember what the box said last time. Is this indeed the Reala 100 that many of you love and recommend?

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Hmphf. I scan, too. You _always_ want density in the shadows, and that's exposure. Density in the highlights is controlled by development :-)

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Well yeah, of course. What I meant was that scanning negs seems to be more successful with slightly thinner negatives. I'm a big believer that true film speed is based on proper/adequate shadow detail. 1/3 to 1/2 stop difference in exposure could make a difference in scans of Pan F+. A bit heavier exposure is useful for printing in a darkroom ... which Gene doesn't have.
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