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Anyone help with my versions of 50mm 2 Summitar
Old 02-28-2006   #1
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Anyone help with my versions of 50mm 2 Summitar

I am new to all of this Leica stuff....

I have 2 Summitars sitting in front of me.
I was able to locate the dates via the serial numbers.

1940
Barrel is marked "mtr" with no country
f stops are weird 2 2.2 3.2 4.5 6.3 9 12.5
Glass looks uncoated
Short focus is 1

1946
Barrel is marked "mtr" Germany
f stops 2 2.8 4 5.6 8 11 16
Glass has looks coated (blue)
Short focus is 1

Both optics appear to be scartch and haze free.
The coated optic has some cleaning marks on the coating (front element) but nothing in the glass.

I really only planned on keeping one of these.. Any suggestions or pros and cons of each lens???
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Old 02-28-2006   #2
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Depends what you're looking for. If it's your only 50mm lens, you'd probably be happier with the later coated one. If you have a modern 50mm lens already, then the older uncoated one would be most different with the most amount of character. Try them both on identical subjects and see which you prefer.
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They are both optically identical. The f-stop differences are just that; that's what they used in "the old days" for the Summar and earlier Summitars. All Summitars were made in Germany.

The coating helps with contrast/light reflection blah blah. If you're looking for a really vintage look, go for the uncoated version. Either are prone to flare, anyway, but the coating will be a bit of help.

Like Tom said I'd say: hope it helps!
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Old 02-28-2006   #4
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Is no coating better then scratched coating??
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Old 02-28-2006   #5
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I'd keep both. I've used the "odd" f-stops on many different lenses without a problem and the actual practical difference between f/6.3 and f/5.6 or f/9 and f/8 is so small as to be easily ignored.

If you don't want the uncoated Summitar with the odd f-stops, I'd be interested in it.

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Old 02-28-2006   #6
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I still havn't settled on a camera yet....
I have a Bessa R Leica III CLE and CL in my hands now...
I am leaning towards the CL...
and I have a 40mm lens with it.. Which is coated.
So I might keep the uncoated lens, if I get an adapter for M mount
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Old 02-28-2006   #7
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I tried to shot these lenses with my DSLR.
I am limited to macro type...

I also threw in the canon 50mm/1.2

All were shot at f 2.0
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Which is which?
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Which is which?

Don't leave us hanging, which is which?
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Old 02-28-2006   #9
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I named the images with the lenses...
I guess that was lost when I uploaded them...

Leica uncoated - Leica coated - Canon

This was shot on a Maxxum 7D DSLR with AS on!!
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Old 02-28-2006   #10
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Regarding "old" f-stop series you might find this useful- http://www.ozdoba.net/leica/schraub_altezeit_e.html

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I would also suggest you keep both Summitars

but in case you do not like the coated version, I would be interested in buying the coated Summitar .
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I will probably be selling it anyway.. I picked up a better one..
These lenses are starting to pile up...
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Old 03-03-2006   #13
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Coatings with cleaning marks are better than no coating in terms of light transmission and flare. The cleaning marks don;t do much to degrade image quality, if anything. I would keep the coated lens for everyday shooting; the uncoated lens for the real vintage look.

Mine is coated.
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