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02-25-2006
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Five Goats Hunter
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In praise of the Elmar
Just got through scanning the first roll of Delta 100 I developed myself. It was put through my Leica IIF and exposed with an Elmar 3.5. It's only the second or third roll I've used this lens with and I have to say, WOW! I'm seriously impressed!! This is by far the best lens I've ever run across and that includes all my Nikon SLR glass.
The best example is the truck photo I'm attaching below. It's not much of a composition, but the subject is tack sharp and the bokeh is excellent! I'm very glad I picked up this little lens. Wish I had the money for more Leica glass now.
All of the below were souped in Rodinol 1+25 for 9 minutes. A couple more can be found in my gallery.
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02-25-2006
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It looks to me like you have a winner in that Elmar. Your last shot - the street scene - shows a wide range of tones and I like it.
Walker
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02-26-2006
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I just processed and am about to scan the first shot with my new Elmar. I took some with an Industar 50 too with thoughts of offering a comparison. The Elmar is a great little lens, very well made and you simply can't beat it for compactness.
More to follow.
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02-26-2006
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Ditto on the Elmar. The photos are very nice. IMO, you can't beat the Deltas.
Art
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02-26-2006
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looking good cap'n!
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02-26-2006
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Terrible scans, but I am happy with the first results from mine.
Delta 3200 at 3200 in DDX.
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02-26-2006
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Here are a couple from the ID 50. Not a fair comparison in my eye as the lighting was much different. (much better for the Elmar)
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02-26-2006
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Not so new now.
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It's almost all I use lately if I'm shooting with the Leica-the 90 Elmar looks very similar, too.
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02-26-2006
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The little Elmar is a terrific lens. I also have a FED Industar-22 which is almost as good. The early Industar Elmar clones are a real bargain at $20 or so.
Rover I really like the first shot of the little girl. The perspective and the way she's all scrunched up puts you right there. Great pic!
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02-26-2006
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Nice to see how these ancient Elmars can keep on surprising and pleasing people people with the performance that they are capable of. Amazing really. Hope you keep on enjoying that lens.
Nikon Bob
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02-26-2006
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I just picked up an Elmar 3.5. Haven't used it yet but from the comments I'm excited.
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03-01-2006
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Analog hobbyist
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Here are a couple of shots I recently made with an uncoated 1936 Elmar 5cm. I acquired this lens recently for $56.
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03-01-2006
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jkelly, what kind of film is that in the first shot? Love the tones and the grain.
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03-01-2006
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Analog hobbyist
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Braden, the B&W is Ilford HP2 Super ASA 400. The color is plain old Kodak MAX 400.
Jack
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03-08-2006
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M6 and Red Blind 111c.
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While we're discussing Elmars, does anyone shoot with an uncoated 3.5cm Elmar?
It's my standard lens on my LTM (my only LTM lens if I'm honest) and it's a fantastic performer. IMO it compares favourably with the coated Zuiko on my last film Olympus Trip - in fact in some shots it's sharper.
It vignettes wide open, but the 1930's instruction booklet which includes that lens warns about that - the vignetting disappears once the lens is stopped down a little. In some shots thats quite a nice effect anyway IMO.
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03-08-2006
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Originally Posted by scigeek
While we're discussing Elmars, does anyone shoot with an uncoated 3.5cm Elmar?
It's my standard lens on my LTM (my only LTM lens if I'm honest) and it's a fantastic performer. IMO it compares favourably with the coated Zuiko on my last film Olympus Trip - in fact in some shots it's sharper.
It vignettes wide open, but the 1930's instruction booklet which includes that lens warns about that - the vignetting disappears once the lens is stopped down a little. In some shots thats quite a nice effect anyway IMO.
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Yes, I do. Mine does vignette at wide-open but is sharp and does quite well. On my list of things to do is to use the 3.5cm f/3.5 Elmar lens for color.
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03-08-2006
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M6 and Red Blind 111c.
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Originally Posted by doubs43
Yes, I do. Mine does vignette at wide-open but is sharp and does quite well. On my list of things to do is to use the 3.5cm f/3.5 Elmar lens for color.
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Hi.
Me too 
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03-08-2006
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i need to pay better attention to the threads here.
i just posted for advice on old elmars.
doh!!
does anyone have a 50 collapsible elmar for sale?
is there any difference between a rigid & a collapsible?
joe
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03-08-2006
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No rigid 50mm Elmars.
The Classic 50mm/F3.5 Uncoated, then coated after WW-II;
Classic 50mm F2.8, always coated;
Modern 50mm F2.8, reformulated and very sharp.
The classics are in the $200 range, new one is >$500 or so.
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03-08-2006
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Will have to keep my eyes open for one - I just picked up a repair project IIIf red dial and a 90/4 Elmar (uncoated) Obviously I need a 50mm and the Elmar, Summitar and Summicron are on my hit list, maybe even a Summar just for kicks.
Brian, which Elmar do you have?
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03-10-2006
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I have an old uncoated 50/3.5 Elmar and I am waiting for the mail to get the film back developed. I paid $100 a month ago.
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03-11-2006
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The only collaspible elmars ar 90 mm.
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03-11-2006
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Originally Posted by Ronald M
The only collaspible elmars ar 90 mm.
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and 50mm.
4 different versions actually: original f3.5, original red scale f3.5, original f2.8, modern f2.8.
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03-11-2006
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Originally Posted by FrankS
and 50mm. 4 different versions actually: original f3.5, original red scale f3.5, original f2.8, modern f2.8.
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If it wasn't already squished flat I'm sure the 35mm Elmar would have been a collapseable too!
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03-13-2006
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M6 and Red Blind 111c.
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You mean it isn't MEANT to extend???

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