What's coming on Dec 21?

[Trius]

Bobofish: Well, the announcement has to do with SLR users. I don't think we'll see a Nokia SLR phone any time soon.

You make some good points; it would make sense to produce Zeiss lenses for the EOS mount. Zeiss has stated they believe digital cameras need a full frame sensor.

OT, but have we seen many shots made by ZM lenses on the R-D1? Is there a thread on that?

Earl

[leafy]

Out with a new brand named......Nikontax?

[ZeissFan]

If one of the Japanese companies was involved, it probably would have leaked by now. They don't know how to keep a secret.

[Avotius]

Originally Posted by Frank Granovski

Maybe Zeiss bought Nikon? Then all Nikon cameras will be called Zeiss-Nikon. Could be.

haha...that was clever

[thmk]

They say "More on Wednesday, December 21"... Maybe it will be just the next teaser??? Didn't they do the same when announcing the Zeiss Ikon and its lenses?

Cheers
Thomas-Michael

[dffman2001]

Pictures are leaked! Nikon it is!

http://www.zeiss.de/C12567A8003B8B6F/GraphikTitelIntern/KVHomepageZF06gross/$File/06_gross.jpg http://www.zeiss.de/C12567A8003B8B6F/GraphikTitelIntern/KVHomepageZF05gross/$File/05_gross.jpg http://www.zeiss.de/C12567A8003B8B6F/GraphikTitelIntern/KVHomepageZF04gross/$File/04_gross.jpg http://www.zeiss.de/C12567A8003B8B6F/GraphikTitelIntern/KVHomepageZF03gross/$File/03_gross.jpg http://www.zeiss.de/C12567A8003B8B6F/GraphikTitelIntern/KVHomepageZF02gross/$File/02_gross.jpg
http://www.zeiss.de/C12567A8003B8B6F...pageZF01gross/ $File/01_gross.jpg

[RObert Budding]

F-mount Zeiss lenses! Yahoo!! This is fantastic news!

FYI - Zeisss has removed the pics from their site.

Robert

[Mazurka]

Wow, it's the best thing that happened to the Nikon system since Ai! Thanks dffman!

And that's my first SLR (which I still have) in the pic - the Nikon FM. Very heart-warming. Hope I can finally get a real 85mm f/2 Zeiss lens, the Jupiter 9 I've ordered notwithstanding. Perhaps another reason to hold off getting the Zeiss Ikon

"Zeiss brings ZF" - do they have the transaxle company's approval?

I wonder who will make the lenses? Oberkochen or Cosina?

I have 6 Nikon F mount lenses for sale. Anyone interested?

PS:

[Avotius]

f$%& I was hoping for canon mount lenses......damnation, hm....maybe its time to get an FM3...

[RObert Budding]

I'm wrong - the images are still there.

Robert

[RObert Budding]

I've always liked Nikon bodies. And my first "real" camera was a Nikon FE2. But it is funny that the company that copied the Zeiss Ikon is now "hosting" the real deal.

Robert

[Mazurka]

Remember when Zeiss Ikon sued Nippon Kogaku in the 1960s over the Nikon brand so the Japanese had to re-brand their products "Nikkor" for the German market? Somewhat ironic isn't it?

[bobofish]

And didn't Nikon sue Ikon a couple decades back, because they thought Ikon's name infringed on their own, copied name?

But that notwithstanding,

WOOHOO!

I think that's magnificent news. Rather than bringing out another possibly damned to failure body, they're going for a very proven and stable system.

I have to admit, while I am somewhat sorry that the lenses won't be available for EOS (Until recently I was something of a Canon guy) but I'm growing to really like the Nikon system, especially the easy integration of mf lenses.

Although as we all know, with an adapter, these will be useable with EOS as well, and with some tinkering, possibly with all electronics talkedy talking.

[Mazurka]

Originally Posted by RObert Budding

But it is funny that the company that copied the Zeiss Ikon is now "hosting" the real deal.

Not only did Nippon Kogaku copy Zeiss products, they were also formed by merging several optical companies, just like Zeiss Ikon was a merger of camera companies. Even to this very day both are very diversified in the optical industry with a large range of products like scientific instruments (microscopes, opthalmologic equipment, etc), cine lenses, telescopes and binoculars...the list goes on and on. They are also among the handful of companies who have their own glassworks (Schott in Zeiss' case.)

[bobofish]

And it just occurred to me...

May the Leica executives that are running that company into the ground contract anal herpes, and grow dozens of leprose appendages! May their wives shun them, and their dogs find other masters!

All those people who said that Nikon wouldn't go for a deal with Leica....well here's a deal with Zeiss!

Although knock on wood, maybe this will get Canon to make a long distance phone call to Leica......or even more hypothetically, maybe this Zeiss maneuver is a result of industrial espionage, trying to beat a Leica/Canon alliance? Muhahahaha.

Although any such alliance, knowing Leica's lightning fast reflexes when it comes to new technology, could probablly be developed by interns and still come out faster.

[Mazurka]

Nikon fans beware - this may mean manual-focus Nikkors and the FM3A will no longer be made.

[bobofish]

Mazurka,
I've always heard that Schott is Zeiss's thing, but in what sense...does Zeiss actually own Schott, or do they just have an exclusive agreement?

A couple years ago, I took a glass-blowing class, and we got a lot of Schott glass donated to us by the company...it was cheaper for them to ship it to us, as much as we could possibly use, then it would have been for them to run the rods back through the machines and redo.

It was mostly tubes and rods that they sent us, and the average that they were "off" was about 1mm....still, the explanation we got was that several hundred rods run through the machine every minute, and to actually take the time to remelt, and rerun would be prohibitive...as such the pure optical glass was useless to them.

The first thing I made with a Schott tube was a little head of Homer Simpson...it would be neat to think that he is now made of the stuff that dreams are made of, namely Zeiss lens glass!

[Avotius]

damnation, I hope they also come out with canon mounts...I refuse to use those damn adapter things

[Mazurka]

Originally Posted by bobofish

Mazurka,
I've always heard that Schott is Zeiss's thing, but in what sense...does Zeiss actually own Schott, or do they just have an exclusive agreement?

Bobo, Schott has always been a Zeiss company IIRC.