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12-16-2012
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ɹoʇɐɹǝpoɯ moderator
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rx1...i see the heavy breathing has started
the net is abuzz with tales of colour shift from left to right on images...once again perfection has eluded us...(tongue in cheek)
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12-16-2012
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Just can´t have your cake and eat i too. Ah well, sigh.
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12-17-2012
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I swear some people just can't wait to find the faults in every new camera. The holy grail is unobtainable in cameras.
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12-17-2012
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Quote:
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I swear some people just can't wait to find the faults in every new camera. The holy grail is unobtainable in cameras.
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Oh, no it isn't!
(Produces pantomime camera).
(cf also Ministry of Arguments)
Cheers,
R.
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12-17-2012
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Any links?
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12-17-2012
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12-17-2012
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Fascinating.
A lot of the colour shift (including the magenta rings in the corner) can surely be corrected either in firmware or with profiles for Lightroom/ Capture 1 etc.
But I find this review more telling - essentially, that with that fantastic sensor and lens, the focusing is semi-random, especially without shelling out for the EVF:
http://tashley1.zenfolio.com/blog/20...little-annoyed
(Oh, and great headline, Griffin!)
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12-17-2012
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Cant wait for SONY to get rid of the lens and sell the camera with a NEX mount.
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12-17-2012
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I'm just very glad that I have no GAS for this camera at all.
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12-17-2012
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Quote:
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I'm just very glad that I have no GAS for this camera at all.
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Same here. Been salivating for a big sensor compact and yet feel nothing for this camera. Strange?
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12-17-2012
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The dude is getting a new camera from Sony to replace the one that seems to have the color shift.
At least they are replacing it.
Dave
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12-17-2012
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i still get these color shifts with my updated firmware on my NEX.
i'm glad Sony is trying hard to get into the small body full frame niche. But this kind of thing should have been taken care of before leaving the production lines. Especially with a reputation for their cameras already causing color shift and magenta casts.
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12-17-2012
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Until others confirm it, it's a possible defect. Outsourcing quality control to the end-user is a time honored way of doing things (not saying it's right). But anyway, hard to condemn the whole thing based on this. If it starts popping up everywhere, then...
I prefer to condemn the camera on the basis of price! Just kidding. I'd pick one up if I saw it lying on the street. I wish Sony luck with it, it's a bold move.
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12-17-2012
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Same here. Been salivating for a big sensor compact and yet feel nothing for this camera. Strange?
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Not strange at all. No finder (except for a $500 external clip on) and an inflexible user interface. The reviews indicate manual control is cumbersome.
The camera's user interface has to be well suited for many photographers. I am not one of them. So even though the sensor and lens are excellent, I would never buy a camera I won't enjoy using.
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12-17-2012
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I'm just very glad that I have no GAS for this camera at all.
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Same here. A waste of previous FF sensors putting it in a camera with a fixed lens and no built in viewfinder. I will not walk around with a camera stretched out in front of me to take a photo.
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12-17-2012
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using the rear lcd is not so bad...i use it on the rx100 and no problems so far...in fact i think it's better for street shooting.
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12-17-2012
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using the rear lcd is not so bad...i use it on the rx100 and no problems so far...in fact i think it's better for street shooting.
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I understand that, and you've taken some great photos with your RX100.
But for many of us, it is a deal breaker, especially as this is a much heavier camera than the RX100. Most of my photo-taking errors come from the AF focusing on the wrong object, and I know that's what would happen with the RX1 for me, so the extra quality of the large sensor, compared to my X100, would be utterly wasted.
Still, the RX1 is a great harbinger of things to come.
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12-17-2012
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Not strange at all. No finder (except for a $500 external clip on) and an inflexible user interface. The reviews indicate manual control is cumbersome.
The camera's user interface has to be well suited for many photographers. I am not one of them. So even though the sensor and lens are excellent, I would never buy a camera I won't enjoy using.
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You pretty much nailed it! And it's a wee bit pricey.
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12-17-2012
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I'm just very glad that I have no GAS for this camera at all.
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+1  . When it gets a built in evf, it maybe another matter though..
Gary
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12-17-2012
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i've lost the itch for one at the moment.
while i like what i see coming from this camera...it's not really all that different from what i'm getting with the fujis.
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12-17-2012
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+1  . When it gets a built in evf, it maybe another matter though..
Gary
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It'll still have Sony's convoluted menus though... once they make a camera for people passionate about photography and not people passionate about camera spec wars, then they may have something.
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12-17-2012
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using the rear lcd is not so bad...i use it on the rx100 and no problems so far...in fact i think it's better for street shooting.
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It is, even better with a Touch/AF/Trigger arrangement!
I use my OMD like that as a Street Camera in many occasions... very fast, and guarantied where you touch is in focus.
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12-17-2012
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Honestly I never understood people's need for complaining about cameras they don't have and never plan to purchase anyway. I'm happy with my RX1, and I don't spend my time thinking about what problems cameras from Fuji, Nikon and Canon might have.
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12-18-2012
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Honestly I never understood people's need for complaining about cameras they don't have and never plan to purchase anyway.
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Perhaps it's because we are dreamers. Sony got so much right, but so much wrong (in some of our eyes)... we were heartbroken. 
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12-18-2012
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Quote:
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Not strange at all. No finder (except for a $500 external clip on) and an inflexible user interface. The reviews indicate manual control is cumbersome.
The camera's user interface has to be well suited for many photographers. I am not one of them. So even though the sensor and lens are excellent, I would never buy a camera I won't enjoy using.
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In what way is control cumbersome? It has direct control, dedicated dials for all major parameters, five buttons customizable to 27 functions. It has manual mode in combination with auto-iso.
The only thing cumbersome about these controls is the that camera itself is very compact, and it doesn't incorporate a grip.
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