Old 12-15-2012   #41
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I have both. I'm keeping both. At least until there's a native macro lens for the M system and a hotshoe flash that isn't the size of a tank, that takes 4xAA batteries and has bounce/swivel.

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Old 12-15-2012   #42
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I used to have an M9 and I loved it. Then it got stolen. DId not have the money to replace it so I got an OM-D and I love it. At first I really had to get used to it, and AF did not do what I wanted. But after some tweaking and learning I got used to it. I use it with the pana 20/1.7 and with an adapter for my M lenses. The truth is: a lot of features are very handy, AF, image stabilisation and video. It is smaller and quieter. I can use it one handed thanks to AF. But more importantly, it is so much better than the M9 in higher iso modes. Not just noise, but much more dynamic range. What I do miss from the M9 is small DOF, and the use of my summilux 50 as a 50mm lens. I also do miss the rangefinder. I will probably get a used M9 later, or maybe even an M, but for now, I am taking great photos with my M9.
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Old 12-15-2012   #43
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The M9 is depreciating quickly. Sell now. I shoot mostly with the Fuji X-Pro1 and Panasonic M4/3rds (GX1 and G3). I like the range of lenses available for M4/3rds. I have great zooms that range from 7-300mm and two great primes (20 and 25mm). SO the versatility is tremendous. But when I want great image quality, I use the Fuji. My Canon 5D Mark II and lenses are now collecting dust. The small size of the Fuji and M4/3rds systems is a great advantage.
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Old 12-15-2012   #44
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The M9 is depreciating quickly. Sell now. ...
I don't know why the M9 'depreciating quickly' should make me want to sell it.

Having had Micro-FourThirds equipment in the past, and pro-DSLR equipment, I'm more than delighted with my M9. Even if it is technically obsolete, it still produces superb photos which is what I bought it for.

If the M9 isn't working for you, THEN consider selling it for equipment that suits you better. Not because it's depreciating at whatever rate.

I'd sell a lot of my other gear before selling the M9 at this point. :-) Really love this camera.
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Old 12-16-2012   #45
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I don't know why the M9 'depreciating quickly' should make me want to sell it.

Having had Micro-FourThirds equipment in the past, and pro-DSLR equipment, I'm more than delighted with my M9. Even if it is technically obsolete, it still produces superb photos which is what I bought it for.

If the M9 isn't working for you, THEN consider selling it for equipment that suits you better. Not because it's depreciating at whatever rate.

I'd sell a lot of my other gear before selling the M9 at this point. :-) Really love this camera.
I would agree especially with the 'depreciating quickly' bit ,keep the M9 until its worn out!, thats what I'm going to do with mine.
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Old 12-16-2012   #46
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Guys, I was considering selling the M9 because it is not meeting my needs. Unexpectedly I was offered (and accepted) a well paying commercial photography contract for two years. The M9 just isn't productive in the high paced environment. I really need something with a LiveView feed (for the software I have to use). And the parallax is adding a lot of time in PP. I'm not slow with PS and LR, but at this point I'm editing about 700 photos daily (for multiple eventual uses-die cuts, 360 web display, web store display, print catalogue). In a few months, we'll be adding 3D capabilities as well. Maybe the new M would work, but the M9 isn't.

In any case, the wifey nixed the notion of selling the M9. She says she's never seen me take better photos (especially hers) than I do with the M9, and she's never seen me happier than when I have the M9 in my hands. So...the M9 stays. I suppose next year some time, I'll add another camera. Until than, I'm gonna have to put up with the borrowed Canon dSLR.

Also, I'm not concerned with the monetary depreciation. Such depreciation would only be a concern if the camera wasn't seeing any use. As long as I continue to use the M9, the value (or depreciation) is amortized and is most certainly cheaper than building another system which will likely depreciate much faster than the M9. How long has the M8 been around? It still sells for close to 2K! That's remarkable. In a year, the Oly M-5 will not be selling anywhere close to its initial retail price of $1000.
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For production work like that there's no doubt at all, for me anyway, that a modern pro-grade DSLR with Live View and video capture capabilities is the right tool. That's what I used when I was doing that kind of work (my camera was an Olympus E-5, which was terrific at this stuff). The E-M5 is there too, nearly as competent in all ways as the E-5 (except for fast moving sports work, hand held with long lenses).

It sounds like you've made a good decision on what to keep for yourself and what to use for your paying work. Two very different needs, solved by two very different camera systems.

Good luck with your contract! And continued good luck with your M9! :-)

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Old 12-16-2012   #48
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Real camera vs. toy camera?

(Dons flameproof suit...)

Cheers,

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I realize that you're joking, but a real camera is a camera that can be used to make real work. When I see great photos in big prints that David Alan Harvey and others are producing with micro 4/3 gear (GF1 nd GX1), it's hard to retain any doubt that these are real cameras.

FWIW, DAH also shoots with an M9, D800, Mamiya 7, and Leica S2.
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For production work like that there's no doubt at all, for me anyway, that a modern pro-grade DSLR with Live View and video capture capabilities is the right tool. That's what I used when I was doing that kind of work (my camera was an Olympus E-5, which was terrific at this stuff). The E-M5 is there too, nearly as competent in all ways as the E-5 (except for fast moving sports work, hand held with long lenses).

It sounds like you've made a good decision on what to keep for yourself and what to use for your paying work. Two very different needs, solved by two very different camera systems.

Good luck with your contract! And continued good luck with your M9! :-)


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Thanks.
The M9's still seeing plenty if use for every thing else, including paid work (weddings, portraits, etc).
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