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Old 03-29-2013   #41
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After these experiments, I recently changed my c2 setting to
- contrast minus 4
- saturation minus 2
- auto iso to 3200
- BW raw only

I plan to,play around w/ this for a while and c how I like the images...

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A. 1000 ISO normal reduced noise with +1 bending in SPP5


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I have been experimenting a lot w/ the monochrom mode on this camera. Here is a set from the dp1m. Since the new 1.04 fw update and the spp support of raw b&w, I really really like the monochrom shots. This set was all shot at 4th street Berkeley. These were all done using the settings I mentioned above.







This was from my front yard after some rain had come thru during the early morning. It is these shots, I wish I had a dp3m.



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Contrast!

Of course lower contrast to get more on bright spots!...i copied your c2 program...
Tomorrow iŽll test it at broad day light...iŽm just beginning with my own experiments!
Hope during this coming week iŽll do a proper test against the mother of all digital cameras...thatŽs my m9....

But canŽt say for sure what lens iŽll test it against...the dof problems makes me think i must be very precaucious with the choice ...but sorry for jumping onto another subject beside BW...

So tomorrow iŽll go to a huge flea market...hope to ge some leicas to do some bargains and of course get nice BW pics to post after PP...

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Of course lower contrast to get more on bright spots!...i copied your c2 program...
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Yep..lower contrast to bring in more grey scale.. Use. Photo sw to bring back the level of contrast to your taste later.. I am still experimenting w/ my settings, but tat was the basic idea.

Btw. The setting above, I forgot to correct the info.. I did in another post but not there. I initially used 0.4 and 0.2 respectively not 4 and 2. I wanted to get a feel for these setting before going to more different setting...which I plan to do starting tomorrow.

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....canŽt say this camera beats the monochrom...but i can say it handles harsh light in a manner no other camera iŽve owned can...



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Thanks, JJ! I immediately started asking myself why did I turn it the way I did. It's surely more than a question of composition... :-)
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Sigma DP2M processed with Iridient Developer, using the special Sigma monochrome mode, which avoids all colour processing at the raw stage.

For those of the Mac persuasion Iridient Developer is great for the Sigma DPs - much faster than RPP, very flexible, and pretty intuitive to use. Only $75.

Love the BW from this camera!

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Sigma DP2M processed with Iridient Developer, using the special Sigma monochrome mode, which avoids all colour processing at the raw stage.

For those of the Mac persuasion Iridient Developer is great for the Sigma DPs - much faster than RPP, very flexible, and pretty intuitive to use. Only $75.

Love the BW from this camera!

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Kirk, I see that your use of Iridient is probably centered on BW. I was put off from it because of the problems it had (has) dealing with color. But I can't remember seeing a comparison for B&W vs. SPP. Would love to see that, or barring that, hear more from you about the advantages. Thanks for posting! Jon
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Kirk, I see that your use of Iridient is probably centered on BW. I was put off from it because of the problems it had (has) dealing with color. But I can't remember seeing a comparison for B&W vs. SPP. Would love to see that, or barring that, hear more from you about the advantages. Thanks for posting! Jon
Jon,

Just installed the latest Sigma Photo Pro. From what I can see the Iridient raw BW input profile produces a much sharper image and really beautiful tonality on this image compared to the SPP image.

Iridient is currently at v 2.1, which may be newer than what you were using. There's a 15 day trial, so you might give it a try. The default rendering is a bit dark - but easily fixed.

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Foveon HDR

Haven't shot much b&w with the DP since b&w film runs rings around it in terms of artistry. But ironically it's HDR (which I tend NOT to like at all) can come out allright in Foveon X3+B&W combo IMHO.




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Sunken wooden dhow Al Burag on dry during low tide, Zanzibar.














Tanzanian portrait.

















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Margus, the waterfall is awesome! I'll have to try that.

Kirk, thanks!
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It's official: I covet this camera. I should not have passed on the one that was in the RFF classifieds a couple of months ago.
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It's official: I covet this camera. I should not have passed on the one that was in the RFF classifieds a couple of months ago.
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Some B&W from Foveon X3, not Merrill, since I can't afford it, but those are out of the ancient DP2s model...



Arab faces of Oman...














Camel seller.














Portrait of fisherman on Masirah island, Oman.


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Very nice work, Margus. Are the portraits handheld or did you use a tripod? Stunning detail without seeming clinical.
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Very nice work, Margus. Are the portraits handheld or did you use a tripod? Stunning detail without seeming clinical.
Cheers! All handheld shots. That's the beauty of Foveon, it's non-interpolating sensor, you get the full info on all pixels so there's not so much "bad chemistry" between interpolated pixels like on Bayer-sensors. Foveon files mostly need little if no sharpening at all to look tack-sharp (it took me some time getting used to this 1:1 pixel perfection coming from Bayer-sensor camera) and it looks "clean and natural" even on the fuzziest details that normally look crap on the common Bayer-sensors IMHO.
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The shots in this thread really are beautiful and make me want one of these cameras! I started looking at them to price them just for kicks. I already have a camera that is similar in function (LX7) so there's no way I could justify the cost or need but man those shots sure make me want it!
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Cheers! All handheld shots. That's the beauty of Foveon, it's non-interpolating sensor, you get the full info on all pixels so there's not so much "bad chemistry" between interpolated pixels like on Bayer-sensors. Foveon files mostly need little if no sharpening at all to look tack-sharp (it took me some time getting used to this 1:1 pixel perfection coming from Bayer-sensor camera) and it looks "clean and natural" even on the fuzziest details that normally look crap on the common Bayer-sensors IMHO.
Yep.. Could not agree w/ u more. The look from the foveon sensor looks so much better than a normal sensor that needs a Bayer or xtran filter.

Your 5mp (15 foveon speak) sensor to me feels like it has a better balance between a nice crisp image and that dreamy smooth look then the current dp Merrill we are using. If I come across a used sd15 at right price, I may give it a go as well....

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Couple more:



Faces of Yemen.














Yemenese rascals - the usual narcotic qat in his cheek.













Our mandatory armed-to-teeth escort through dodgy parts of Yemen.














Portrait of Turkana tribeswoman in her full beauty.



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I think Margus could have used almost any camera to good effect with an eye and subjects like that. Awesome documentary work, Margus!
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Your 5mp (15 foveon speak) sensor to me feels like it has a better balance between a nice crisp image and that dreamy smooth look then the current dp Merrill we are using.
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Hi, some more foveon black and white









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Love this Thread...Everyone makes the Magical Colour Sensor
Look Wickedly Good in Monochrom

Fabulous last set Keith...drool, sigh, jealous, Well Done !

You have mastered that Foveon Sylph,
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Is it just me or is flickr oversharpening images? In my last pic above I linked it to flickr at first and thought it looked a bit 'blahh' then edited and linked it to our gallery and it's much better.

F*** them ... why do they have to do that?
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