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10-18-2012
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JonasYip is offline
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Thought I'd point out that the link above takes you to a page with prices in Euros, where the preorder price on the black on is 174 Euros.
The US shop has them at... $174 US:
http://usa.shop.lomography.com/cameras/new-in-stock |
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10-18-2012
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Every film user should buy one of these - not for the camera itself (really neat idea, like the Yugo), but to support new fim production. The die-hards already buy alot of film. The future depends on building a healthy niche market. I like to think of the Belair, which appears to be significantly less toy-like than its colleagues, as a gateway to more refined pleasures. In 10 years it'll be Ilford and Lomography for 120 film and, possibly, Lomography alone for new build film bodies. Let's give Lomography a reason to up its game.
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10-18-2012
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#28
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I pre-ordered one 
I use medium format folders from 645 to 6x9.. The intrigues me, given the price, 6x12, two lens, etc.. I also want to c if I can figure a way to mount a better lens on it...
The product run is rather small... To even be more than a drop in the bucket for 120 sales. This camera reminds me of the old kodak scissor style folders or the polaroid version...
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10-18-2012
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I'm headed to NY tomorrow. I should stop by the Lomography shop.  |
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10-18-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Archlich
On lens barrel you see the infinity, 3m, 1.5m and 1m marks, and f/8, f/16 aperture settings.
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A lot of the early mf folders had lenses that stared around f3,6 anyway. Zone focus was the norm for the average camera and on those cameras most people used f8 to f11 anyway unless u had a external rangefinder.. Super ikonta and other rf or non-rf couple folders came later as the norm but they were more expensive, the scale focus folders were around for a long time.
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10-18-2012
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Originally Posted by nlubis
I'm headed to NY tomorrow. I should stop by the Lomography shop. |
Pre-order only right now. Expected delivery mid December. But maybe they have a demo unit 
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10-18-2012
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Originally Posted by StevenJohn
Here's a picture of the creation. If you look carefully, it has a bit of front tilt built in. I call it the Holgon...or was that the Grandga...?
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Nice conversion
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10-18-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GaryLH
Pre-order only right now. Expected delivery mid December. But maybe they have a demo unit
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Yes, here hoping for a demo unit. |
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10-18-2012
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#34
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pure dumb luck, my friend
smiling gecko is offline
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yikes!!!
just placed my per-order!!!
breathe, relax and enjoy.
smiling gecko, aka kenneth
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10-18-2012
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Looked at the product photos again. The film winder looks something like a folding wingnut design. Anyone have user experience with that type of winding? Seems to me that it'd take forever to get to the next frame in 6x12. I have a Zorki 4 that I never use and it's mainly because I hate the winding knob.
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10-18-2012
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If it is automatic exposure, where do you select ISO? Is there an exposure warning since max 125th sec?? Almost pulled the trigger!
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10-18-2012
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#37
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It is good to see that there is a new camera like this!
... but I will go on shooting panoramas with an XPan and 6x6 with a Mamiya 6 |
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10-18-2012
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#38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ncc1701
If it is automatic exposure, where do you select ISO? Is there an exposure warning since max 125th sec?? Almost pulled the trigger!
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http://microsites.lomography.com/belair/
This sister site gives more info.. But sadly not to your particular questions. My suspicion, no max setting or low for that matter.. U got f8 and 16 only so most likely back to pick your film speed wisely...
They did say aperture priority setup taken from lomo CL-A.
Some of the controls maybe hidden inside the body for all we know. The Fuji af 120 camera had an ISO bar code reader that set iso automatically, but I would be surprised a area at this price would have it. Fuji film was the only one I am aware of that put a bar code on their paper back for iso..
The two lenses are a 90 and 58. In 6x12 according to website 32 and 21 equiv respectively.
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10-18-2012
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#39
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YOU ALL CAN USE LOMO CODE "ilovelomo" for 10% off
and redeem your piggies if you just signed up for $10 off!
Pre-ordered the Globetrotter for the price of the Jetsetter!
Couldn't resist after saving 40 bucks! ARGHHH!
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10-18-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kuzano
Presuming that it is, or could be made light-tight, one would have to be seriously lacking in creativity or DIY talent to not be able to figure a way to put some serious lenses on the front of this camera.
I'm thinking the price is worth the entry fee to get a base camera that one could upgrade substantially.
I can justify that price for a base camera to work with. After all, I've spent more money for many used MF and folding cameras that had little potential for becoming more than they were designed to be.
I'm following this.....
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+1 exactly.
One of my criteria has been that the camera should fit into a jacket pocket. But, yes, hmmm ... |
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10-19-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ncc1701
YOU ALL CAN USE LOMO CODE "ilovelomo" for 10% off
and redeem your piggies if you just signed up for $10 off!
Pre-ordered the Globetrotter for the price of the Jetsetter!
Couldn't resist after saving 40 bucks! ARGHHH!
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Damn, I should've seen this! I've sent them an email asking if they'll piggyback the coupon code that I forgot to add, fingers crossed!
Hopefully it's cured my Plaubel Makina GAS!! haha! |
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10-19-2012
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Oops. I just pre-ordered one.
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10-19-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ncc1701
YOU ALL CAN USE LOMO CODE "ilovelomo" for 10% off
and redeem your piggies if you just signed up for $10 off!
Pre-ordered the Globetrotter for the price of the Jetsetter!
Couldn't resist after saving 40 bucks! ARGHHH!
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Thanks for that !
Just pre-ordered one. |
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10-19-2012
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Oh my, I'm very very tempted by this....
Of course I have far too many cameras as it is and I've only just bought a Lubitel 166u (my first 120 film camera!) so I can't really justify this as well, but........
Someone please talk me out of it!  |
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10-19-2012
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Robin Harrison is offline
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Another pre-order here!
This is their bravest camera yet! Shame they don't trust users with manual shutter/aperture control, but oh well.
When you think they charge more for a reconditioned Lubitel 166+, this is actually a very good value camera (by their standards).
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still have some roll film to shoot up! |
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10-19-2012
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still have some roll film to shoot up!
Just did the pre-order too!
With the code above, at 40% off ( 30% pre-order 10% code), how can this be a bad deal?
Should be fun to play with, and at worst, it costs me a few dollars to "rent" until I get tired of playing with it!
Dave
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10-19-2012
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raid is offline
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So all we need to do is to make use of the coupon, and we will get 40% off? Is this correct?
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10-19-2012
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PointOmega is offline
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Just pre-ordered.
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10-19-2012
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Godfrey is offline
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Tempting. You know it's junk anyway ... but it can be fun junk.
"Oh, it's just another $175 ..." in that direction lies peril. =8-0
I *should* stick to what I have already. Damn you all for mentioning this. ;-)
G
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10-19-2012
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#50
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D.J. is offline
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Did anyone notice that they have the f-stop/symbols mixed up?
"Cloudy f16" and "Sunny f8" |
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