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lenses was mislabeled for a time as "Mirrorless Cameras" by those forgetting about "Mirrorless" Rangefinder cameras. Such
confusion is easily understandable, since interchangeable rangefinder cameras
were only recently introduced in 1932. hmm. CSC or
Compact System Camera is probably the best category description to date,
although I am fond of the old RFF desigation of CEVIL
indicating Compact Electronic Viewfidner Interchangeable Lens. This forum is here at RFF because via adapters these cameras offer an inexpensive way
to use rangefinder lenses on digital cameras -- in addition of just about every
35mm SLR lens you can think of. All offer the photo enthusiast an
incredible array of adopted lenses which was not possible before these new
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Not very good...
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I hadn't seen a photo of that before but it is obviously overpriced ugly camera silly season! Who is next I wonder? |
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The Lunar is expected to retail from €5000 in the first quarter of 2013 and will be available in a choice of standard models plus a variety of exclusive hand grips and precious materials on special order, says Hasselblad
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Lunar? more like looney... |
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oh my...that's an ugly camera...and I bet it isn't cheap
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It's €5000.-
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Probably seeing Leica's current success in marketing, and banking on their name to do the same...
What a silly looking camera!
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A deformed Sony Nex-7 with an IKEA wooden grip.
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Yup. Looks like a Nex-7 in a new case. Sigh.
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Is it April 1st already?
I'm trying to be open minded about what keeps appearing in the guise of cameras of late but this effort by Hasselblad is disappointing to say the least!
Hopefully the whole lot will be on the next moon landing ... to be left there!
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the indecisive eternity
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Oh my. These make the Leica-rebranded Panasonics look quite reasonable in comparison.
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For the €4000 in price difference between this and the Nex-7, the new grip better have a solid gold core!
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More jewelry for the ostentatiously wealthy to flaunt, I hope enough people will recognise the superior affluence of the users of this 'luxury' item. 
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At least if you can afford the camera, you can afford all the black tape you'll need...
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I don't think anyone will buy that. $6500 for an APS-C sensor? And it looks very uncomfortable to hold. The grip seems to extend forward rather than allowing the fingers to curl naturally. What was that type designation--CSC, was it? Looks more like a POS. Make mine a used M9, please. Or maybe I'll just keep my M8.2.
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is this also for the Far East market?
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the indecisive eternity
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Larry Hansen, Hasselblad CEO:
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We want to go back to our customers. Fifteen years ago, 65% of our customers were not professionals photographers. Today almost 100% are professionals. My goal is to make Hasselblad cameras accessible to all serious customers.
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What. Apparently, "serious customers" means "rich people who are also blind".
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It seems the Leica ethos is spreading wider, is this also for the Far East market?
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This has nothing to do with the Leica ethos, though. Leica makes fine, albeit expensive cameras. Sort of like a company making nice watches.
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A digital XPan would be a much better idea. I know that it is very expensive to make very large sensors, because of a high rate of rejection. But the sensor would not have to be as large as the XPan film area. If they can make a 36mm wide sensor, they should be able to make one that is, say, 25% longer, or about 46mm. Then, by setting the height to 18mm (the same height as an APS-C sensor), the aspect ratio would then be 2.55:1. That's the same as Cinemascope was originally, before the width was slightly reduced to make room for the mag/optical tracks.
How does that sound?
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No money, no honey
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I think this is for the rich people with bad taste all over the world.
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Are you poor? |
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Are you poor?
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Yes.
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Ugly yes, but it looks quite comfortable to hold.
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This monstrosity has to win the wooden spoon - worst camera of the show.
I'm now so embarassed of Hasselblad, I'm going to have to tape over the name tag on my V series cameras before going out in public.
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so actually hasselblad stands for rebadging camera's...
H-series=made by Fuji
Lunar=made by Sony (the Hasselnex;-)
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Makes the Nex-7 look like a great design in comparison.
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The new Leica M has left me in two minds, I am reserving judgement beyond my initial impressions, for real world reports.
This Hasselblad monstrosity is a different case altogether. It's a Nex camera with bling of the worst calibre. Sad day for company which produced the simplicity of design of the V series.
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You know whats infuriating and funny at the same time, this monstrosity has the same propriety NEX-7 hot shoe! lol
How desperate hassleblad must be that they have taken an almost 2-yr old midrange Sony mirrorless, and are trying to pass it on as an "original Italian-design luxury mirrorless"...
The true winner here is Sony.
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eternal beginner
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....i was so excited until i read this. i don't even mind the design, it's the fact that their master plan is so overly reliant on Sony that all if it will basically be Sony in Hasselblad clothing.
i am so disappointed....
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