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CSC : Digital Compact System Cameras - This new category of digital Compact System Cameras with interchangeable lenses was mislabeled for a time as "Mirrorless Cameras" by those forgetting about "Mirrorless" Rangefinder cameras.  Such confusion is easily understandable, since interchangeable rangefinder cameras were only recently introduced in 1932.  hmm.    CSC or Compact System Camera is probably the best category description to date, although I am fond of the old RFF desigation of  CEVIL  indicating Compact Electronic Viewfidner Interchangeable Lens.   This forum is here at RFF because via adapters these cameras offer an inexpensive way to use rangefinder lenses on digital cameras -- in addition of just about every 35mm SLR lens you can think of.  All  offer the photo enthusiast an incredible array of adopted lenses which was not possible before these new digital formats.   This group continues to grow in popularity and new camera models! 

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Hassleblad Mirrorless!
Old 09-17-2012   #1
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Hassleblad Mirrorless!

"Hasselblad is rumored to announce a high-end mirrorless camera according to DSLRMagazine which has a very good track record in "predicting" upcoming products. The direct translations is:
"The new format Hasselblad will CSC, rounded shapes ... A kind of luxury NEX"
http://photorumors.com/2012/09/17/breaking-hasselblad-will-release-a-high-end-mirrorless-camera/ "
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That would be interesting. The only thing that raises flags for me is "luxury," which is often a buzzword for "high profit margins by leveraging brand cachet."
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I hope it will be 35mm not medium format.
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The more cameras the better. Anything to finally burst the digital camera price bubble.
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That would be interesting. The only thing that raises flags for me is "luxury," which is often a buzzword for "high profit margins by leveraging brand cachet."
Well, Hassleblad doesn't deal in consumer goods. So, yeah.
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Luxury NEX? Maybe Hasselblad bringing out this camera will force Sony's hand to produce a full frame NEX for stills photographers (they already have a camcorder). And Sony DOES do consumer goods
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Sony's already proven that full frame is inevitable in the future.
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This is Hassleblad and they have been dabbling in large sensors for sometime, so this mirrorless could very well be full frame.
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I wonder who is making it for them? I doubt this will be in house.
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Fuji white-labeling or true Hasselblad? Xpan was a Fujiblad.

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What's CSC format??
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Fuji? Hasselblad has strong connections with Fuji...
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What's CSC format??
Compact system camera, I think.
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Could be Fuji but they seem to want this market for themselves! The 'blad (if made by Fuji) would have to be in a different part of the market which means it will be exceptionally expensive, or have a niche sensor (panorama? big?) that Fuji is not planning to brand for itself.
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Compact System Camera is a format?! Did they get the interns to come up with that one?!?
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http://www.bjp-online.com/british-jo...compact-camera

This is funny! Other than being incredibly hideous, it's also crytal clear that this is, in essence, a Sony Nex-7. Which, of course, means that their upcoming DSLRs will also just be Alpha's in an ugly design.
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That is plain fugly
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IKEA!


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Eek. That's ugly... but I bet it will be very capable. Nice to hear they are making compacts and DSLRs too. It is a crazy time for camera buying.
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A deformed Sony Nex-7 with an IKEA wooden grip.
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http://www.bjp-online.com/british-jo...compact-camera

This is funny! Other than being incredibly hideous, it's also crytal clear that this is, in essence, a Sony Nex-7. Which, of course, means that their upcoming DSLRs will also just be Alpha's in an ugly design.

Blahhhhh! They have to be kidding ... right?
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oh my...that's an ugly camera...and I bet it isn't cheap
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That camera is so funny that I did a wee in my pants from laughing so hard*.

*I actually didn't but that is a very ugly and poorly concieved camera.
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I double checked the calendar --- yup, not april 1st.
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That camera is so funny that I did a wee in my pants from laughing so hard*.

*I actually didn't but that is a very ugly and poorly concieved camera.

That makes the striped X-2 look good.
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That makes the striped X-2 look good.
I hadn't seen a photo of that before but it is obviously overpriced ugly camera silly season! Who is next I wonder?
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The Lunar is expected to retail from €5000 in the first quarter of 2013 and will be available in a choice of standard models plus a variety of exclusive hand grips and precious materials on special order, says Hasselblad
Lunar? more like looney...
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oh my...that's an ugly camera...and I bet it isn't cheap
It's 5000.-

And you thought Leica was expensive.
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Probably seeing Leica's current success in marketing, and banking on their name to do the same...
What a silly looking camera!
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A deformed Sony Nex-7 with an IKEA wooden grip.
Yup. Looks like a Nex-7 in a new case. Sigh.
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Is it April 1st already?

I'm trying to be open minded about what keeps appearing in the guise of cameras of late but this effort by Hasselblad is disappointing to say the least!

Hopefully the whole lot will be on the next moon landing ... to be left there!
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Oh my. These make the Leica-rebranded Panasonics look quite reasonable in comparison.
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For the €4000 in price difference between this and the Nex-7, the new grip better have a solid gold core!
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More jewelry for the ostentatiously wealthy to flaunt, I hope enough people will recognise the superior affluence of the users of this 'luxury' item.
It seems the Leica ethos is spreading wider, is this also for the Far East market?
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At least if you can afford the camera, you can afford all the black tape you'll need...
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I don't think anyone will buy that. $6500 for an APS-C sensor? And it looks very uncomfortable to hold. The grip seems to extend forward rather than allowing the fingers to curl naturally. What was that type designation--CSC, was it? Looks more like a POS. Make mine a used M9, please. Or maybe I'll just keep my M8.2.
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is this also for the Far East market?
I think this is for the rich people with bad taste all over the world.
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Larry Hansen, Hasselblad CEO:
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We want to go back to our customers. Fifteen years ago, 65% of our customers were not professionals photographers. Today almost 100% are professionals. My goal is to make Hasselblad cameras accessible to all serious customers.
What. Apparently, "serious customers" means "rich people who are also blind".
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It seems the Leica ethos is spreading wider, is this also for the Far East market?
This has nothing to do with the Leica ethos, though. Leica makes fine, albeit expensive cameras. Sort of like a company making nice watches.
What Hasselblad is doing here is like selling t-shirts with a large "D&G" logo across the front.
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A digital XPan would be a much better idea. I know that it is very expensive to make very large sensors, because of a high rate of rejection. But the sensor would not have to be as large as the XPan film area. If they can make a 36mm wide sensor, they should be able to make one that is, say, 25% longer, or about 46mm. Then, by setting the height to 18mm (the same height as an APS-C sensor), the aspect ratio would then be 2.55:1. That's the same as Cinemascope was originally, before the width was slightly reduced to make room for the mag/optical tracks.

How does that sound?
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