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Old 08-29-2012   #41
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I've just got had one on loan and this is the most impressed I've ever been with a fixed zoom camera.

Just a first impression but I feel Sony finally has a winner in the compact market; they've -really- nailed it with the IQ and overall operation/AF/shooting speed.
What sets it apart from other ambitious cameras in this segment IMO is that they've somehow managed to keep the size down.

I find my self contemplating selling off my X-Pro1 kit and just picking up one of these.
I've only been using the XP1 as a snapshot camera recently and it's a waste. The RX100 would fill the role much better.

Edit: I wanted to add that you can bounce the flash off the ceiling by holding the flash head back on it's hinge. I don't know if it's an intended feature but it's pretty awesome all the same.
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Old 08-29-2012   #42
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How does the AF speed of the RX100 compare to the GRDIV? Other comments comparing both directly?
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Here's a review I did at f8 blog.
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Here's a review I did at f8 blog.
http://thef8blog.com/?p=2306#more-2306

Thanks for looking
I have to say that this is the best, focused review I have ever read in my life (if I get enthousiastic, I can be very generous with compliments). You make your thinking process, technique and the way you make the camera work for you crystal clear. Anyone who does a bit of street shooting should read it.
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I agree, nice review. Thanks for sharing (although I read it after I went ahead and bought the camera ).
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You're doing some nice work with this camera, Joe!
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I have to say that this is the best, focused review I have ever read in my life (if I get enthousiastic, I can be very generous with compliments). You make your thinking process, technique and the way you make the camera work for you crystal clear. Anyone who does a bit of street shooting should read it.
Something I never even thought about... Using your own body as a reference point. For example using a known distance from the ground to say bridge of your nose and using single af to set a known distance before going to mf mode for zone focus..

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Been looking for a view of the bottom of the camera - don't seem to find one!
Is there a tripod bush, and where is it - central to the lens?

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You're doing some nice work with this camera, Joe!
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Been looking for a view of the bottom of the camera - don't seem to find one!
Is there a tripod bush, and where is it - central to the lens?

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there is...it is off centre, to the right when holding the camera.
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Been looking for a view of the bottom of the camera - don't seem to find one!
Is there a tripod bush, and where is it - central to the lens?

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Tripod mount is off center from center of lens by about half inch or so. Also slightly off center of the body as well..

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Just took my Sony RX 100's out for a test. Shot in RAW to see how far the images could be pushed when shooting in harsh lighting conditions:





















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Pushing the RAW files:

For the Sony RX 100, wanted to see how hard I could push the RAW file in Lightroom (4.2) , when the photo was taken in horrible harsh lighting conditions:

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How's the LCD in bright light?
just discovered this morning (after reading about it...thanks streetshooter...) the 'sunny' setting for lcd brightness...really works!
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just discovered this morning (after reading about it...thanks streetshooter...) the 'sunny' setting for lcd brightness...really works!
Yessir! That makes all the difference in the world to an old coot....like me...
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my franiec grip has arrived and been attached the camera.
it is as tiny as the rx100 but does improve the handling immensely.
i also put a piece of griptac on the thumb area and that helps also.

it's a primed photo machine now!
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Here's a review I did at f8 blog.
http://thef8blog.com/?p=2306#more-2306

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i'm not a street photographer, but i still found your comparison between the RX100 and GRDIV useful. thanks.
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i dropped by a wolf photo store today to see if it would carry the rx100. then i noticed the guy with a huge rolling backpack thingy with the lid open talking to the shop people. he reaches into a compartment, pulls out an rx100, and says, "here's one!" turns out he's the sony rep.
i mauled the rx for 5 minutes or so. really nice feeling build, good weight for its size, and FAST focusing. i gotta say, this looks to be some more go-anywhere/any time cam. niiiice ...
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my franiec grip has arrived and been attached the camera.
it is as tiny as the rx100 but does improve the handling immensely.
i also put a piece of griptac on the thumb area and that helps also.

it's a primed photo machine now!

Now where is mine?
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So, the AF is super fast on this camera?
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Can someone let me know what the fastest aperture is at 35mm and 50mm settings?
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Can someone let me know what the fastest aperture is at 35mm and 50mm settings?
Here is the complete list just in case others are interested in the other zoom positions.

1.8 at 28mm
2.8 at 35
3.2 at 50
4.0 at 70
4.9 at 100

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Finally Franiec arrived I installed and really help holding the RX100 better.
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Here is the complete list just in case others are interested in the other zoom positions.

1.8 at 28mm
2.8 at 35
3.2 at 50
4.0 at 70
4.9 at 100

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by way of an update...

i am still very happy with the rx100...it's a great image maker.
i use a small terraclime 50 bag from lowepro that fits my iphone and the camera with room to spare and it fits over the head and shoulders like it's not there.
i'm still amazed at how easy the lcd is to see in daylight and i think this camera has sparked my interest in the rx1 more than the full frame aspect.
the only thing i still want to do is have some prints made from the rx100 files to see for myself what they look like. i noramlly only have small prints made so i am not anticipating being disappointed.
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i noramlly only have small prints made so i am not anticipating being disappointed.
I would think you'd be able to make nice 24x36"prints with this camera at base ISO. It's 20mp and has decent dynamic range. I've made 20x30" prints with the X100 that look ok and that's almost half the MPs.

I think I may need to grab this camera. I've been waiting for a big sensor P&S for the jacket pocket and I was hoping for APS-C. But this shows significant improvements over the typical P&S sensors, so I'll probably bite after everything is announced at Photokina.
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I really think I'm going to pull the trigger and buy one of these shortly, and put it to work alongside my Contax T3 for street/travel. The RX1 FF is a sexy machine, but I'm more interested in RX100-quality in a pocket...just melt into the crowd without even a bag. I don't mind that it has a bit of focal length range too with the small zoom.
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i don't think one can go wrong with this camera...
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i don't think one can go wrong with this camera...
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Unless u need outrageously high iso, rx 100 will not disappoint u..

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Unless u need outrageously high iso, rx 100 will not disappoint u..

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Ok up to 800 or 1600?
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I have a little question:

Imagine you are in a Dark Place. Let's say you put the lens wide open and ISO at 1600, but that still isn't enough for a handholdable shutter speed. If you force flash in such a scenario will the camera expose correcty?

It's a neat little trick to bridge the gap between can't and can, without blowing out the scene. It works for example very well with a Nikon D40.
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Ok up to 800 or 1600?
For me 800 no problem. At 1600 u start to c the noise algo intruding on the iq of the picture. I have used the camera in very dark restaurants @1600. The result look good enough. With any other p&s I would have needed to go to flash..

Normal daylight shooting, the rx100 has no competitor in my book in this category of small p&s with sensor below m43.

This website did the best job I have ever found in terms of showing effects of high iso. It compares same shot with different iso and even different cameras. Scroll down to the point where u c sub section on rx100 image quality.. About a page down from that is where the samples will be located.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PROD...ony-rx100A.HTM

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Yeah, 1600 can look okay, but it can also look very digital camera-y, that trademark digital noise.

Very fun camera, especially for Daido Moriyama-ish snaps on the street.
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I went and looked at it again yesterday and just can't get into it. Never thought I'd say this, but it is too small (and no, a grip won't help) and fiddly. Obviously a great camera if you can accept its ergonomics.
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