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Old 07-21-2012   #26
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There's a shot of the rear of this gadget here:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/20/c...possible-leak/

It looks like there's clickwheels you can use with your thumb and index finger like on the non-Rebel dslrs. I like that. My curiosity is piqued.
my god..look at image no 2 (the one depicting "the rear of this gadget")
Could it be a worse shot? my 5 years old niece shoots better pics with a cell phone's camera...
Maybe it's appropriate though. Sometimes it helps if you can't see sharp
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Old 07-21-2012   #27
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i agree with what others have said re: the camera's looks, but at the end of the day that's not a deal breaker for me.

i just hope that Canon comes out with a higher end body in addition to this leaked one. dear god let it not just be another Nikon 1....
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Old 07-21-2012   #28
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Old 07-21-2012   #29
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i agree with what others have said re: the camera's looks, but at the end of the day that's not a deal breaker for me.

i just hope that Canon comes out with a higher end body in addition to this leaked one. dear god let it not just be another Nikon 1....
I would humbly suggest you try a Nikon 1 series out for a while. I am using the V1 and consider it an extremely capable camera.
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i don't think it's bad looking at all. the proprietary strap lugs, though: why make it difficult to use one's own favorite strap? so the owner has to use one with canon printed on it, i suppose.
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Very interesting device...love the fact canon is not running away from aps-c or ff sensors like nikon v series but going directly towards them, this new camera puts some tension in own canon´s market since can outclass their middle to cheap dsrl´s.
It´s easy to make apsc cameras if you do´t have a wide range of dsrl´s to beat, like fuji, sony etc....

Let´see how comminted canon is in order to develop this mirroless market...let´s see how good are the M systems lenses.

It´s a fine beginning i love canon over nikon because they are always more flexible and bold in their decisions, despite being less "bright" than nikon...

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Boring specs, boring implementation (no innovation whatsoever), and even worse looks.

I would pick a Nex 7 over this camera.
And I am as far as being a Sony fan as one could be.
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Old 07-21-2012   #33
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I would humbly suggest you try a Nikon 1 series out for a while. I am using the V1 and consider it an extremely capable camera.
+1 - my V1 is quite usable.

And the new Canon? No integral EVF = zero interest from me.
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one can reasonably assume that this thing has PDAF on the sensor. it's only a matter of waiting to see if it's fast, can track objects, and holds up in low light.

and then hope they keep on copying sony and put out an enthusiast model with an EVF in the corner.
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my 5 years old niece shoots better pics with a cell phone's camera...
Your 5 year old niece has a cell phone? I'm getting old...

I have a feeling Canon's going to price this thing above the current NEX 5N pricing given their past pricing on the G1X. It actually looks like it was modeled after the nex given with the back buttons (or lack of) and the similar looking zoom lens and pancake (just diff focal length after all the undeserved uproar the 16mm focal length received).
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Old 07-21-2012   #38
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Your 5 year old niece has a cell phone? I'm getting old...
LOL
no, i wrote "with acell phone", not "with her cell phone". She insisted to take control over my rather old iPhone and managed to:
-call my voicemail
-call my dentist
-take sharp photos of me, but without the head (i'm too tall for her)
-start angry birds rio.

All this while she was taking a bath so i am happy the phone is still functional and didn't take a dive.
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Focus peaking?
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I think it looks nice :/ .

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Old 07-21-2012   #41
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I don't mind the looks. The lack of controls is ok as long as the touch screen is implemented well. Same with the lack of an EVF. The larger sensor (vs Nikon 1) is good. I won't miss the flash if the high ISO is good. I probably will buy something like this until a 50mm X100 type camera comes out (that's not the Dp2m).... Price must be < $700
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Yeah I really don't mind the look of it either. I just got a Canon XA10 (for work) and there's a big touch-screen integration in that machine. It takes a little getting use to but I like using the camera more for video than I ever did with a DSLR.

Reasons this appeals to me: My Canon s90 is on its last legs, I loved that camera and the photos I took with it. Small and mighty, but also kind of slow and has a tiny sensor. I'm finding room for film in my life is getting to be difficult, and I'd like the ease of a compact digital kit. The 35mm equivalent lens appeals to me since I love the the Stylus Epic 35mm lens compact (hopefully it'll be as nice of a lens on the Canon but that also remains to be seen).
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i think it's design compares favorably to other camera in its class: olympus e-pm1/pl3, panasonic gf5, sony nex-f3, nikon j1, and samsung nx1000.

it's a good example of the trend to add sharper, geometric lines and forms to the usual plastic blob.
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Old 07-21-2012   #44
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i don't think it's bad looking at all. the proprietary strap lugs, though: why make it difficult to use one's own favorite strap? so the owner has to use one with canon printed on it, i suppose.
You can always paint the C over with a black magic marker to make it anonymous. :-P

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Your 5 year old niece has a cell phone? I'm getting old...
In Finland 5 year old with a cellphone is not that uncommon, but I quess most kids get their own cellphones when they go to school (when they are about 7 years old). The world is changing.

I wonder when people start to understand that using a real viewfinder improves stability and makes framing easier on bright daylight... Or maybe the stabilizers and screens will just improve so much that it doesn't really matter.
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I don't see any difference between this and the Olympus OM-D that everyone seems to get wet dreams over. Both are ugly. So what??
"Ugly" of course is in the eye of the beholder. I happen to like the OM-D's looks just fine. Still, compared to the OM-D, the new Canon offers the following "features":
  • NO built-in EVF (nor, it appears, any way to attach an external EVF).
  • Limited lens selection, thanks to Yet Another All-New Lens Mount.

In short, it gives me precisely no regrets at having just shelled out for an OM-D outfit.

That said, the only thing curious about the announcement that Canon was getting into the MILC (not EVIL, this camera has no EV) market was that it took so long, particularly given how Canon has typically been one of the more technologically-inclined camera manufacturers.
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I would humbly suggest you try a Nikon 1 series out for a while. I am using the V1 and consider it an extremely capable camera.
actually, right after i posted that i saw your thread about your experiences with the Nikon 1 and i must say that i was intrigued. you're right, i've never tried one and i should try one before knocking it. i guess i was just hoping for a different kind of camera both from Nikon and Canon.

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Boring specs, boring implementation (no innovation whatsoever), and even worse looks.
what specs? i have yet to see anything but photos.
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Old 07-23-2012   #47
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Canon EOS M Specifications
18mp APS-C
DIGIC V
ISO 100-12800 (25,600 Expansion)
3″ Touchscreen 1.04million pixels
Phase & Contrast AF
Video Servo AF
1920×1080 Video 30p/25p/24p
1280×720 Video 60p/50p
MPEG-4, AVC/H.264
SD Card
Adaptor at launch for EF lenses

Additional specs
Hand-held Twilight mode, to help with long exposures in low light.
Multi-shot noise reduction function that helps reduce the noise by combining four images.
The usual creative filters
HDR mode to synthesize three different exposures
Camera size: 66.5mm (width) 108.6mm (height) x 32.3mm (depth)
The weight (body only) 262g, (including battery and memory card) 298g
hands-on video:
http://youtu.be/Sa_9kNAMcIw

lots more info:
http://www.canonrumors.com
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Not for me, I like the G12/G1X aesthetic, this is a bit too rounded and civilised for me. No EVF or even an option for an EVF rules it out. The Nikon V1 of course has a smaller sensor, but I think I'd opt for it just for the EVF.
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Old 07-23-2012   #49
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well, at least now, a full frame mirrorless is really possible.
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So far, the only interesting "new" thing is that canon EF lenses can be mounted to the EF-M.
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canon-eos-m/
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