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CSC : Digital Compact System Cameras - This new category of digital Compact System Cameras with interchangeable lenses was mislabeled for a time as "Mirrorless Cameras" by those forgetting about "Mirrorless" Rangefinder cameras.  Such confusion is easily understandable, since interchangeable rangefinder cameras were only recently introduced in 1932.  hmm.    CSC or Compact System Camera is probably the best category description to date, although I am fond of the old RFF desigation of  CEVIL  indicating Compact Electronic Viewfidner Interchangeable Lens.   This forum is here at RFF because via adapters these cameras offer an inexpensive way to use rangefinder lenses on digital cameras -- in addition of just about every 35mm SLR lens you can think of.  All  offer the photo enthusiast an incredible array of adopted lenses which was not possible before these new digital formats.   This group continues to grow in popularity and new camera models! 

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Old 07-06-2012   #41
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Originally Posted by back alley View Post
this thread is indicative of rff of late...everyone is trying to prove they have the biggest d..k..we gotta stop this fast or this place is going to hit dirt quick.

My old d..k..hit the dirt a long time ago.

Actually, my wife bought a Nikon 1 a short while back and simply loves it. I can't imagine a better kit for her-a fashionable red, small/light, easy to use, and fine color images for flickr/here. She uses the 10mm and the 30-110mm zoom. She's hit a home run w/ it.
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Old 07-07-2012   #42
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A flapping mirror is obsolete for a bunch of obvious reasons, no?

The question is when will Canon and Nikon come out with a system for pros? By "system", a full range of lenses from ultra-wide to super tele and accessories to handle just about any job, hung on a ruggedized body that will survive a couple years of hard, commercial use (e.g. to replace the D4/D800). It will be nice to have full-frame cameras that are smaller than a Bronica ETRS again.

Removing the mirror box allow the opportunity/justification for a new line of lenses that are smaller - a clean slate. Camera makers might like that. I would reckon that they will add an adapter to space to the old F-mount to maintain backward compatibility and provide a transition for those with an investment in the old SLR lenses.

I bought a new camera. It's so advanced you don't even need it. - Steven Wright
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Old 07-08-2012   #43
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To your point about a professional line, I don't think anyone is looking at mirrorless cameras that way right now. I think if you really need all of the tools that are in the older mounts, you need to stick with that. For some jobs, a DSLR is just going to work better. If you don't need all of the aspects of a full system and just want a smaller system, that's here now, which I think is exciting.

I think you're right that camera manufacturers shouldn't mind selling new lenses all over again, but once they do that, they are allowing people to consider jumping into any other system, so I expect they'll resist that for a while.
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Old 07-24-2012   #44
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Originally Posted by loquax ludens View Post
I got rid of my DSLR after I bought my X-Pro1. It was clear to me after one afternoon of shooting the X-Pro1 that I'd never use my 20D again. I never used it much anyway. I see myself using the X-Pro1 a lot more. In fact, in one month, I'm sure I've used it more than I used my 20D in a year.

Since I have the X-Pro1, I seem to use the 5DMkII mostly with the 70-200.... if I use it at all.
My 20D has been taking dust since I upgraded to the 5DMkII. Cropping in Aperture gave me more pixel than the 20D anyway :-)
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Old 07-24-2012   #45
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My wife has a Nikon 1. I originally thought she had better options (based on my malformed opinions) but I didn't want to try to change her mind because 1. anything she likes is good with me if it means it encourages her photography interests, and 2. I can't change her mind.

She originally thought she wanted a J1 but went with the V1 because the J1 seemed like a toy to her when she saw it in person. I asked the salesperson almost all of questions about it because I knew I'd end up being her tech support. I was sold on it before she bought it and she also got a great deal on it. The V1 is very slick. If they put it in a melted blob that was 2X larger and heavier, people would probably love it.

Don't knock it until you try it. I'd easily dump all my DSLR gear for something like the Nikon 1 if the lenses get better.
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Old 07-25-2012   #46
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Originally Posted by semilog View Post
Six years. Within three years DSLRs will be an "old people" thing, if they aren't already.
Woohoo, new DSLR user here!
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Old 08-10-2012   #47
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Yes, it's all true - like those bogus financial statements they gave the Olympus stockholders. Like I tell my little boy, don't believe everything you see on YT.

Mind you - I'm not saying it's impossible - or even that it won't happen someday soon. Just not yet.
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