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My M9 will be sold soon...  (but not because of the adapter).
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I'm shocked .. . seriously!
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It's odd that the 35/2 mk4 isn't one of the first to be catered for (unless it's perfect as it is  )
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Nor is the 35/1.4 ASPH on there, either. But this is just a list of lenses "verified." The adapter comes with a gauge to check compatibility. I assume that this is in part to prevent people from clobbering the sensor with the back element of a Jupiter-12...
It will be interesting to see if any of the more expensive M adapters (Novoflex, Rayqual, etc.) drop in price.
In other news, Rainbow Imaging told me yesterday that the Konica AR adapter for the X-Pro will be available next week.
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It's odd that the 35/2 mk4 isn't one of the first to be catered for (unless it's perfect as it is  )
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It says it passes information in OVF mode...does that mean it will somehow confirm focus?
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how is one supposed to focus in ovf mode? just zone focus?
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It says it passes information in OVF mode...does that mean it will somehow confirm focus?
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Focus confirmation would be adapter independent, I guess it just passes the information which frameline to display.
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how is one supposed to focus in ovf mode? just zone focus?
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Yeah, the framelines seem completely worthless unless you're zone focusing. And who will do that for anything higher than 28?
I would like this a lot anyway if you can create custom vignetting profiles for lenses not on the list.
It's kind of a shame, though. This still seems to depend on the EVF, and the EVF is the only disappointing thing about this camera, for me.
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I think the manual focus on the xpro is terrible, haven't had it long and may be doing it wrong, but compared to a film RF it's horrible.
If the MF is as bad as I think, it wouldn't change with this adapter and an m-mount - right?
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this is pretty exciting to me, and i assume others with legacy lenses. it may make this system quite attractive. i hope so and cant wait to see some esults...
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I'm shocked .. . seriously!
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I think you can imagine why... I guess I've come to find that I like close focus, high ISO, in camera sensor cleaning, auto-focus, etc. I just never liked SLRs much, so the M9 was logical choice last year. However, the X-Pro1 is really just that good that I don't use my M9 anymore. Plus, I'm really getting offended by Leica's pricing of the revised M9 versions and its lenses. They've passed by my comfort level for spending and I'd like to get as much cash back as possible from the M9 purchase.
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how is one supposed to focus in ovf mode? just zone focus?
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Perhaps there is something that we don't know? There seem to be many unanswered questions. I doubt they'd say it works with the OVF if it is framelines only. I guess we will find out soon.
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I find zone focusing with a 28 difficult. I would have to go wider, personally. Just not good enough / fast enough at zone focusing anything other than 25 and under.
As they are touting the use of the ovf with adapted lenses, I would hope that there is a focus means available other than zone focusing for use with the ovf. But, if there were, then I would have thought it would have been announced with the rest of the adapter info.
All that said, the fuji 35/1.4 is so damn good that I don't see using my uc hexanon in its place on the camera. And, I don't own any other 35mm m-mount lenses or wider m-mount lenses. :P
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Originally Posted by jsrockit
I think you can imagine why... I guess I've come to find that I like close focus, high ISO, in camera sensor cleaning, auto-focus, etc. I just never liked SLRs much, so the M9 was logical choice last year. However, the X-Pro1 is really just that good that I don't use my M9 anymore. Plus, I'm really getting offended by Leica's pricing of the revised M9 versions and its lenses. They've passed by my comfort level for spending and I'd like to get as much cash back as possible from the M9 purchase.
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Good reasons ... fair but without bashing the product! 
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As they are touting the use of the ovf with adapted lenses, I would hope that there is a focus means available other than zone focusing for use with the ovf. But, if there were, then I would have thought it would have been announced with the rest of the adapter info.
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I agree. There seems to be missing info or the OVF shouldn't have been mentioned. I have a horrible feeling it'll be zone focus only with the OVF.
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All that said, the fuji 35/1.4 is so damn good that I don't see using my uc hexanon in its place on the camera.
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Exactly... why would I use a 35mm m mount lens on this camera when Fuji's is really nice and focuses close. I guess the m lenses have short focus throws and not focus by wire though.
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What would be the purpose of a rangefinder arm connection??? What am I missing here?
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So that some kind of visual representation of focus would be available in the OVF. Hard to imagine how it would be implemented, though.
Focus peaking would really make the EVF bearable for legacy lenses...
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You guys do realize that in M focus mode you can press in the control wheel (as a button) to toggle between OVF and high-magnification TTL-EVF, and back, right? In practice it's good. Not as nice as a standard RF patch but still very fluid.
With respect to peaking, meh. Using the EVF you already see edge shimmering. It's a bit subtle but it certainly works.
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You guys do realize that in M focus mode you can press in the control wheel (as a button) to toggle between OVF and high-magnification TTL-EVF, and back, right? In practice it's good. Not as nice as a standard RF patch but still very fluid.
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I didn't know that! Will have to give it a try.
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Quote:
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You guys do realize that in M focus mode you can press in the control wheel (as a button) to toggle between OVF and high-magnification TTL-EVF, and back, right?
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No, I did not know this and thanks for the epiphany! Love it. This camera just keeps getting better. 
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just do it
I use Leica R and Minolta MD lenses on my GXR 
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I have a GXR on the way and was wondering what non-M, non fd lenses to look into that are worth throwing on it.
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Originally Posted by semilog
You guys do realize that in M focus mode you can press in the control wheel (as a button) to toggle between OVF and high-magnification TTL-EVF, and back, right? In practice it's good. Not as nice as a standard RF patch but still very fluid.
With respect to peaking, meh. Using the EVF you already see edge shimmering. It's a bit subtle but it certainly works.
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Thanks for the tip. Can't wait to try this out.
I went ahead and ordered - as a trial - one of the cheaper adaptors just to see if how my beloved J-3 works on this camera. I really don't like using EVF, but maybe I can grow to like it.
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Quote:
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What would be the purpose of a rangefinder arm connection??? What am I missing here?
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You could have a visual display of the focusing distance (like a distance scale at the bottom of the viewfinder, together with DOF information for a few apertures, possibly configurable). Not a big thing, more of a nice-to-have, like scale focusing except you have the scale in the viewfinder. Unlikely to happen at all, though, given the space constraints.
Also you could have other distance-related information, such as parallax- and size-corrected framelines, distance information recorded in the EXIF, distance information for flash control etc.
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Anyone realize that where the M adapter allows distortion and vignetting control with M lenses, it also does the same with anything that can be adapted to M - like SLR lenses?
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I have a GXR on the way and was wondering what non-M, non fd lenses to look into that are worth throwing on it.
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