Is the the X100 obsolete?

[willie_901]

Not obsolete, just more specialized than before.

The size, whisper quiet shutter and flash sync speed are unique for a digital camera.

[gavinlg]

Originally Posted by gavinlg

x100 (compared to the x-pro1):

- Significantly smaller
- Almost totally silent (leaf shutter vs normal shutter)
- 1/2000th shutter flash sync due to leaf shutter
- Has a lens that was specifically designed for its sensor, and sensor designed specifically for its lens. Thus the lens can be tiny and still optically excellent even wide open. Thus, less CA than x-pro1 with its lenses.
- Under half the price of the x-pro1
- Built in flash
- Built in 3 stop ND filter

So no, not even close to obsolete. In fact it's the only camera of its 'type' (optical vf/electronic vf, tiny, fixed fast lens, manual controls, big sensor) available on the market, and probably will be for a very long time.

Originally Posted by Pablito

Fuji made sure it was not obsolete by holding off on releasing the 35mm (equivalent) lens. Without this focal length, the Xpro1 is not an option for many. When that comes out, the X100 will be obsolete.

Just playing devil's advocate here. I opted for NEX instead, and no regrets. Though I'd happily use the x100 if someone gave me one.

Considering the differences listed above, I don't really see how a 23mm lens for the x-pro1 will make the x100 obsolete - have you compared the two cameras? The x100 is a fair bit smaller.

[helenhill]

Why should it be considered Obsolete... Good Size Sensor, Quiet, Easy Portability, Beautiful Sharpness & Rendering
As long as it Produces & Performs to your Liking its a Valuable Tool
regardless of how many other 'New' Toys have come out on the Market

[buzzardkid]

The X100 is só obsolete, nobody should want to be seen with it.

Any obsolete X100 you want to dispose of in a decent way, can be sent to me.

PM's welcome.

[mep]

And as I sit here, there is, just four hundred metres up the road, an 'as new' x100 perched quietly on an unlit shelf...Available to any taker for about the price of an xpro lens.

[-doomed-]

I loved mine, it just didn't fit my style or needs. I doubt it's obsolete, i'd say it's in its own category, however.

[Bike Tourist]

Originally Posted by paulfish4570

you could give your stock web portfolio a new name: "XX Stock Shots."

Ha! Then a lot of people would be disappointed.

[Phil_F_NM]

I just got mine and for the moment I'm in the honeymoon phase. This is hotter, faster, younger sister to my M9 and as a result I'm not shooting the Leica at all recently. The X100 has taken the place of a 35mm lens on my M9, allowing me to shoot with a different focal length on the Leica at the same time.

Still getting used to the camera though, as I've had it barely a week now.

Phil Forrest

[tbhv55]

Originally Posted by 135format

Is the the X100 obsolete?

No... but perhaps everything else is...?!

[viramati]

Had mine for a year and the reality is that with the firmware updates this camera is getting better and better. A classic in the making and brilliant at what it does

[bhop73]

I don't think mine would be obsolete if it was reliable.. just got the sticky aperture blades for the 2nd time. *sigh

[luibargi]

I agree 100% with keytarjunkie, GaryLH and others.
I've been a RF and SRL film shooter for 35 years and when for some reasons I needed a digital camera, possibly a RF camera, then my choice went to the X100.
I also had an X-Pro1 for a full day to try but decided for the X100, I did not want another 'system' to carry with me.
I may take out my F1-N or Pentax LX or Rolleiflex with some lenses and a pocketful of films but the X100 will always be with me.

[135format]

Ok guys I got the message. The X100 isn't obsolete.

[luibargi]

I'll keep using my X100 for all the reasons above (technical) but mainly because IT IS NOT a system like XPro1. If I will need a system (i.e. body and a number of lenses) for that price I would rather go for a small sized DSLR.

[douglasf13]

Originally Posted by gavinlg

Considering the differences listed above, I don't really see how a 23mm lens for the x-pro1 will make the x100 obsolete - have you compared the two cameras? The x100 is a fair bit smaller.

Yeah, no kidding. Aside from the differences listed above, I also think X-Pro1 shooters are going to be surprised just how big the 23/2 lens will be. The majority of the lens elements of the X100 are actually inside the camera body, which Fuji can do, because it is a fixed lens. I'd imagine the 23/2 for the X-Pro1 will be as big as the 35/1.4.

I've got a system in the NEX-7 plus a 19mm, 30mm and 50mm, but, to be honest, since I bought the X100, I haven't really used my NEX-7, despite the excellent IQ. I may sell the NEX-7.

[gilpen123]

Haven't you guys heard of the X100Bs, a 40 mm fixed lens B&W only? X100 will be obsolete in 5 years.

[GaryLH]

Originally Posted by douglasf13

Yeah, no kidding. Aside from the differences listed above, I also think X-Pro1 shooters are going to be surprised just how big the 23/2 lens will be. The majority of the lens elements of the X100 are actually inside the camera body, which Fuji can do, because it is a fixed lens. I'd imagine the 23/2 for the X-Pro1 will be as big as the 35/1.4.

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+1

Was actually thinking the same thing on Friday, but I was thinking somewhere between the 18 and 35....

The 23 on the x100 is so short that it looks more like a pancake lens. I was shooting with it last week and I am still amazed at the pictures this little camera can take. Fuji said the lens was specially designed for the x100. There are no compromises.

Gary

[GaryLH]

Originally Posted by gilpen123

Haven't you guys heard of the X100Bs, a 40 mm fixed lens B&W only? X100 will be obsolete in 5 years.

. Not

With digital rot, 5 years maybe an eternity, but from my perspective, the x100 is already good enough for me that I don't care. I plan to keep using it for the for see able future.

Doesn't mean I don't want to c a x200 with a 40 or 50 f2

Gary

PS. I have had mine since the second month they arrived in US. I think I may have been number 6 at Brian's store.

[douglasf13]

Originally Posted by GaryLH

+1

Was actually thinking the same thing on Friday, but I was thinking somewhere between the 18 and 35....

The 23 on the x100 is so short that it looks more like a pancake lens. I was shooting with it last week and I am still amazed at the pictures this little camera can take. Fuji said the lens was specially designed for the x100. There are no compromises.

Gary

The short lens of the X100 is actually a bit of an illusion. The "lens" section of the camera only houses a few elements. Most of the optical elements are in the camera body itself, with the last element pushed right up against the sensor. That's the advantage of using a fixed lens.

This is how big the lens really is, if you were to remove it from the camera body:

[Trius]

To answer the OP ... I sure hope not. If it is, then I have to retire the brand new 4x5 I bought 2 months ago, and my wife is going to be REALLY pi$$ed that I spent all that money for nuthin'. Sheesh, I hate it when technology changes. Ya just can't do anything these days without getting burned by change.

[GaryLH]

Originally Posted by douglasf13

The short lens of the X100 is actually a bit of an illusion. The "lens" section of the camera only houses a few elements. Most of the optical elements are in the camera body itself, with the last element pushed right up against the sensor. That's the advantage of using a fixed lens.

This is how big the lens really is, if you were to remove it from the camera body:

Thanks for providing the visual update on the size... It it bigger behind the camera body than I imagined. So it may really end closer to the 35 then.

Gary

[douglasf13]

Originally Posted by GaryLH

Thanks for providing the visual update on the size... It it bigger behind the camera body than I imagined. So it may really end closer to the 35 then.

Gary

Yeah, probably. The Sony 24/1.8, while being slightly faster, is even longer than the Fuji 35/1.4, so I'd imagine the Fuji 23/2 will be in the same size ballpark as the 35/1.4. If you want small, fixed lens is the way to go.

[GaryLH]

Originally Posted by douglasf13

Yeah, probably. The Sony 24/1.8, while being slightly faster, is even longer than the Fuji 35/1.4, so I'd imagine the Fuji 23/2 will be in the same size ballpark as the 35/1.4. If you want small, fixed lens is the way to go.

http://www.fujirumors.com/here-is-th...-lens-roadmap/

If this rumor is true, it is going to be a 23f1.4

Gary

[douglasf13]

Originally Posted by GaryLH

http://www.fujirumors.com/here-is-th...-lens-roadmap/

If this rumor is true, it is going to be a 23f1.4

Gary

Yikes, then the lens is likely to be much bigger. While I appreciate Fuji going for f1.4 in several lenses, I'd rather have smaller, f2 lenses across the board, I'd imagine.