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Digital Leica M8 / M8.2 / M9 / M-E /Mono / M10 aka "M" Discussions about the Leica M8 /M 8.2 / M9 / M9-P/ M-E / M Monochrom / M10 aka "M": Leica digital M mount rangefinder cameras. Naming the new digital M the "Leica M" is VERY unfortunate as it will only confuse newbies with other Leica M cameras of the the past. Happily there is room for confusion with only the past 59 years of Leica M production ... since Leica introduced the Leica M system in 1953. All Hail for the Leica Marketing Department learning Leica M history!

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Old 05-15-2012   #26
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Hot shoe ... you have to be kidding!!!!!

Have you seen what one of those things can do to the calf skin lining on your 'manbag!'


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Old 05-16-2012   #27
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Old 05-16-2012   #28
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BTW could this thing really go up in value in the future? It's still "just" a digital camera...
I highly doubt it. I just don't think it works that way with electronics. In 10-20 years this will be a crappy digital camera by that time's standards and it won't have any historical value either.

I'm not so sure, though, that this is a 'collector's camera'. Keep in mind that a Hermès handbag can easily cost $50'000 so the potential clientèle for this camera shouldn't really mind using a $50'000 camera kit.
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Old 05-16-2012   #29
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Let me see:
Noct = $10k
50 lux = 4k
90 Asph = 3k
28 = 4k
lenses cost about $21k, say you give it a 50% premium for the limited edition - that comes to $30k, give or take. That means the camera is $20k?

It's a beauty, but paying a 100% premium over the plebeian M9P?
People don't buy these to use. They collect them. No fun in collecting a "plebeian" M9P.
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People don't buy these to use. They collect them. No fun in collecting a "plebeian" M9P.
Agreed.
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Old 05-16-2012   #31
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some like, some don't.
some buy some won't.
i like, and won't.
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Old 05-16-2012   #32
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People don't buy these to use. They collect them. No fun in collecting a "plebeian" M9P.
Read my above post. I don't think collecting is really the reason for people to buy them. I think it's much more likely that these will be bought as gifts in wealthy circles.
Besides, JMQ forgot to factor in the price of the bag. Most Hermès bags are more expensive than an M9 . Granted it's probably not a 'real' hermes bag (looks more like a re-branded Billingham) but hey, at Hermès even a simple belt can cost between $500-1000.

If you look at prices for the 2003 Hermès MP on the used market you can see that from a collectors point of view it wasn't that good an investment. Looks like at best it held it's value (that's not even considering inflation). I think collectors are more interested in buying rare vintage Leicas at auctions instead of new special editions.

By the way, I think the Leica M9P Hermès is really ugly. Reeally ugly.
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Old 05-16-2012   #33
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well, leica or not, i was fascinated by the handcrafting of the whole kit. the bag, i think, is a beautiful piece of fashion.
Agree.
The use of the bone tool is elegant in its simplicity.
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Old 05-16-2012   #34
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I'm also of the opinion that it looks amazing. That little sweep to the top plate is so understated, but more graceful for it.

It is, of course, merely to be collected, not used, and not worth it's RRP, but that doesn't stop it being beautiful
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I wonder how many of these ultra-special editions ever get taken out in the field and used.

For those of you with fashion-conscious women in your lives, ask them what an Hermes Birkin bag costs and how long it takes to get one (waiting list is years and I've heard prices over $20,000, with the plainest handbag going for $8K+).

Seems that a camera kit like this is not to be used for seeing things, but rather for being seen. Not my cup of tea, nor my budget. But there's an ass for every chair.
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This jacket is by John Galliano, from the Men's Spring 2012 collection; the issue is to find the ochre-colored one to go with the M9 Hermes.


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Old 05-16-2012   #37
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check out the unboxing..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeMBI6oFlD4

and a boring video of the items inside

http://youtu.be/74XbNFLhQDw

in any case, i agree that it is a much better buy than most of the foolish items some people...buy
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I'm waiting to see the first one covered in orange gaffer tape.
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I'm a Leica shooter, but frankly these Hermes edition are too much for me. Garish and silly. Show-off neckwear for people who will never really shoot them. Or if they do,will never use the camera beyond bad "happy snaps." A bit like giving a Formula 1 racer to a "Sunday driver"....
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Well, at least it doesn't look like:
http://www.pentaximaging.com/hybrid/K-01_Yellow

And, I think I'll buy two. One to use and one to keep hidden to only peek at and giggle on special occasions.
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I'd love to have one; if someone gave it to me. I would leave it exactly how it came from the factory. I've got three Leica M shooters (one digital and two film) and five lenses. They are all in various stages of "beat up from use". They were beautiful when they left the factory, but were made to be used.

That Hermes camera is beautiful from the factory, and so are the three lenses. They are made to be gazed upon.

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I'd love to have one too - I think it's lovely with that curving top plate - but I'd like to use it - what use is it in a glass case?!
.... but I'd rather have the money!
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I'd love to have one too - I think it's lovely with that curving top plate - but I'd like to use it - what use is it in a glass case?!
.... but I'd rather have the money!
I think it is quite beautiful, myself. I wonder what a "pedestrian" version would actually cost with that top plate in lieu of the normal one with a hot shoe.... I never use a flash on my M or, for that matter, any of my cameras. The only thing I use the hot shoe for these days is putting the film box lid into it so I can remember which of a half dozen film cameras is shooting what!
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Old 05-16-2012   #44
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This jacket is by John Galliano, from the Men's Spring 2012 collection; the issue is to find the ochre-colored one to go with the M9 Hermes.



I hate to say it, but any guy who would wear something like this (outside a gathering of hipsters) would likely be beaten senseless.
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I hate to say it, but any guy who would wear something like this (outside a gathering of hipsters) would likely be beaten senseless.
We can only hope...
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I hate to say it, but any guy who would wear something like this (outside a gathering of hipsters) would likely be beaten senseless.
You could get away with it in Manhattan... I'm not so sure why people get so offended by clothes or accessories that they would have to beat someone senseless. Seems strange.
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You could get away with it in Manhattan... I'm not so sure why people get so offended by clothes or accessories that they would have to beat someone senseless. Seems strange.

Not in the flyover country where I live, where rednecks abound....speaking from my experiences in days of yore, when I was a longhair....
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Not in the flyover country where I live, where rednecks abound....speaking from my experiences in days of yore, when I was a longhair....
Yeah, I'm well aware of those types... I didn't always live in NYC. However, I still wonder what makes someone look at someone's clothes and then get so angry that they have to beat the piss out of someone.
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