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The man who shot film
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I could only laugh at that summicron price tag if that wouldn't mean that the current summicron-M is going to be discontinued, and all decent 50 f/2 lenses are going to go crazy.
How are they going to sell this one when you can buy about two sumiluxes and ten planars with it?
I sometimes wonder what type of pissing contest Leica is running right now...
I know the argument "you don't like it, don't buy it". It has its merits, but its limits too, and these have been happily crossed once again.
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05-10-2012
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#152
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Hahaha, you are not alone!
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Well then.....I don't get it.
Joe
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05-10-2012
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Pupil
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Well then.....I don't get it.
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Won't be a Bayer sensor, if monochrome only. Will provide significantly more resolution and ISO performance than a Bayer sensor will provide, so it makes a ton of sense for folks that really only like to shoot B&W. |
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05-10-2012
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high quality, high ISO would be interesting. but, at that price... maybe not.
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05-10-2012
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Wise they have chosen to do the dinner first. Most would have choked at the new summicron price otherwise.
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Steve
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05-10-2012
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#156
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Anyone wants to buy my M8? it can shoot in color, I will leave it for 10000$
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05-10-2012
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#157
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Silver Efex won't even open grayscale files AFAIK
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I believe you're right. I just tried and it wouldn't open. So the files from the monochrome camera must be in sRGB or similar. |
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05-10-2012
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modern vintage
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It's an M9 with a $1000 upcharge to not include the Bayer filter.
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05-10-2012
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Poser
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My buddy is the east coast rep for Phase One. When I told him about this Leica prospective BW sensor he was not surprised. He said the P1 monochrome sensor is very popular for science and "art" use.
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Canadian & Not A Dentist
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Well... the active users following the thread is dropping.. certainly there must be something that can increase that number...
Justin Bieber
Kim Kardashian
John Travolta
Seal
Just listing the people who can afford that new Summicron without batting an eyelash 
Dave
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05-10-2012
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The man who shot film
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Quote:
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It's an M9 with a $1000 upcharge to not include the Bayer filter.
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and be assured to see a later version with another 1000$ upcharge to not include a red dot
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Gloire a qui n'ayant pas d'ideal sacro-saint se borne a ne pas trop emmerder ses voisins (Brassens)
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#162
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Rich Beaubien
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They'll all be back soon as folks have finished beer errr diner.
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The man who shot film
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I'm starting to think that the cron price tag was a joke.
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05-10-2012
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Canadian & Not A Dentist
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I'm starting to think that the cron price tag was a joke.
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We can only hope... but based on the item I have it looks pretty real... I'm hoping what I have is a joke though *LOL*
Dave
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I have an idea what I'm looking for but it only becomes real once I see it - Constatine Manos
ITS THE MAGIC I SEE IN THE Light, Texture, & Tone
that Intoxicates Me - Helen Hill
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05-10-2012
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One minute... and the show continues... we'll know then.
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05-10-2012
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Photon Collector
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I'm not going to form an opinion until Ken Rockwell gives his 2 cents!
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Digital Refugee
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I'm not going to form an opinion until Ken Rockwell gives his 2 cents!
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I'll end up buying a nikon or another M3 or the mamiya m7 then...
"They had the idea for this product the LEICA M MONOCHROM - finally - with a sensor exclusively BW"
Finally, Huston we have contact...
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Dave
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Next there needs to be an Eric Kim edition.
I kid, i kid.
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05-10-2012
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For $9k, you can have a M9 that finally competes at high ISO with every full-frame DSLR from the last five years!
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05-10-2012
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Digital Refugee
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For $9k, you can have a M9 that finally competes at high ISO with every full-frame DSLR from the last five years!
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For that money I'll sell all my gear and get a MF digital system... and an X100 
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Interesting, iso 320 as base iso. What's the technical reason for that?
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Quote:
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Interesting, iso 320 as base iso. What's the technical reason for that?
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The sensitivity to light is twice that of the M9 with a colour filter array - i.e. the sensor wells fill up faster because there is no filter absorbing light. |
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05-10-2012
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I'm starting to think that the cron price tag was a joke.
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Got to be wrong. Last time I looked the 50 lux - really great ASPH lens - was $4000! |
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05-10-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chyn
Interesting, iso 320 as base iso. What's the technical reason for that?
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increased sensitivity from not having a color filter sitting in front of the sensor eating up light, most likely. |
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