Keanu Reeves on film vs digital

[john_s]

Originally Posted by bigeye

I still have a place in my heart for Gbs of cheap, fast and unimportant digital images.

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When we holiday in an interesting place like Spain my wife takes hundreds of digital pics a day and while we would be tempted to print very few of them, it's great to relive the trip by looking at them in succession. I take my RF and black + white film. It's the best of both worlds.

[Mr_Toad]

But think of it...

Digital movies will ultimately develop to their own demise....with no longer any need for actors/ actresses/ moppets/ animals/ sets/ weather/ equipment/ gaffers/ wardrobe...or entertainment industry lawyers!

It will all be electronically-generated and shat into mass distribution through the ether.

Happily, I will be long dead and toasted by then.

Robt.

[jsrockit]

Originally Posted by bigeye

I still have a place in my heart for Gbs of cheap, fast and unimportant digital images.

Right, because we all know that digital cannot be used for serious work. My point wasn't that one should forget film. My point is that things change and it's not worth getting worked up over. believe me, there are many things I get nostalgic over... even film (and film cameras) sometimes.

[daveleo]

Some of the snarking commentary here takes me back to the old "grade school" yard.

It's embarrassing in some cases.

If you disagree with whatever the actor said, put your opinion and arguments of the subject on the table.

Simply pissing on his shoes (where he is not around to reply) is not a credible response.

I know that sounds pompous, but if we are going to sh#t on the guy's opinion, . . . someone please invite him to the discussion.

[rpsawin]

Originally Posted by Keith

Well ... 'Canoe's' stature in the movie industry is similar to peanut butter's importance to the culinary arts IMO!

LOL...too funny, Keith. Spot on btw.

Best regards,

Bob

[jsrockit]

Originally Posted by daveleo

I know that sounds pompous, but if we are going to sh#t on the guy's opinion, . . . someone please invite him to the discussion.

Ok, let's restart this thread at:

http://www.club-keanu.com/forum/

[Keith]

I've got nothing against Canoe personally but do confess to being pretty non plussed by most of his movies ... I do like peanut butter though and come to think of it a lot of my favourite Asian dishes use it!

And I can't totally disagree with his words .... but we (and Hollywood) do have to move on and embrace the changes in imaging technology or we'll finish up like the Dodo!

If I'd read these same words written by Jeff Bridges they would have meant more to me because he actually embraces and uses film .... and he's 'The Dude!'

[Sarcophilus Harrisii]

Originally Posted by David_Manning

He's feeling nostalgia. And, the pressure from the finance guys about burning film.

I DO agree, however, with printing. Even a disorganized shoebox full of 4x6s is a surprising pleasure to browse. Even if negatives are lost or destroyed, the image remains physically, in print. Honestly, I don't think I have my wedding negatives from 23 years ago, but we have some framed prints and a book of 4x6s which we cherish as fine art.

I think the highest form of our "art" (still photography) is the printed image. It's unfinished until that point...and it doesn't matter how the image was made.

Sorry, I don't fully agree. A processed transparency can be a thing of great beauty that can be appreciated just as it is, or via projection.
Regards,
Brett

[Trius]

Originally Posted by David_Manning

He's feeling nostalgia.

Totally disagree.

[Trius]

Originally Posted by jsrockit

Of course, but you have to weigh the pros and cons...

Why? I don't feel I have to do that.

[KM-25]

Originally Posted by jsrockit

Right, because we all know that digital cannot be used for serious work. My point wasn't that one should forget film. My point is that things change and it's not worth getting worked up over. believe me, there are many things I get nostalgic over... even film (and film cameras) sometimes.

Yeah, but nostalgia is not why I use film. I could even get nostalgic in using digital after shooting with it for going on 20 years. It's about a *clearly* different way of seeing the image, working the image when it is in the lab and how the entirety of the journey on film leads to living an entirely different life...

I just don't think you get it man, using an acoustic guitar over an electric or making an oil painting instead of one from Adobe Illustrator has nothing to do with Nostalgia.

Digital will never do what film does because digital photography is like all the other computer generated stuff out there, it is DIGITAL. That is not a bad thing, I am glad film is now considered Alternative Process.

Why in the hell would I spend three times the money on film, paper, chemistry and other darkroom materials in the past three months than I did on my soon to be here D800?

Why do you think that is Mr. digital?

I bet it must irritate you to no end how photographers like Mary Ellen Mark, Michael Kenna and Roman Loranc claim to have ZERO interest in digital and certainly have the talent to use it....but still pull in tens of thousands in fine art print sales...

[MikeL]

Trius, KM-25, nice posts!

I usually stay away from these threads where the justifiers have to justify to everyone. So dull. Like what both of you imply, whatever gets you what you want, great!

And it says a lot about a person when they bag on someone (like K. Reeves) to make themselves feel better. It is too bad those folks tend to post so much on RFF. No class.

[KM-25]

Thanks man, I am not on here much, just out loving life behind the camera, in the Darkroom or the Lightroom.

I get it, I really do. No more dead notes when trying to keep up with Yngwie Malmsteen on Garage Band, I get it. But don't TELL me that he is nostaligic or yearning for yesterday when the real thing just flat out rips and like film, always will.

Originally Posted by MikeL

Trius, KM-25, nice posts!

I usually stay away from these threads where the justifiers have to justify to everyone. So dull. Like what both of you imply, whatever gets you what you want, great!

And it says a lot about a person when they bag on someone (like K. Reeves) to make themselves feel better. It is too bad those folks tend to post so much on RFF. No class.

[Ollie77]

Hey guys,

you know it doesn't matter who said the statement, the message in it is fairly clear.

As an analogy for all you racing sports fans, it is a bit like watching the MotoGP or the Forumula 1 with all its high tech wizardry, with the Driver assists all switched on and all the computerised help that the drivers and riders get. This compared to 25 years ago when all the aids for the drivers weren't around, when traction control wasn't used and it came out to one two things. How fast your car was and how skilled you were at getting it around the course.

To me, someone who has been shooting digital for the past 5 years, there has always been something missing. And well it is something I am wanting to get back into. I played with film when I was younger and I loved it. Taking the rolls to the processors to get developed and waiting, actually having to wait to see what you got.

These days, with digital, you don't get that. It is instant, you can see your mistakes, you can make your corrections. Sure you learn faster, but it just doesn't feel the same.

Luckily for me I can take what I have learnt from digital, back to film.

And I agree also, why give the guy crap if he can't actually defend himself? He has made a statement, it isn't crazy or out there. Some of you seem to give credence to your statements because he is famous, not because he has said something stupid in its own right. To me that is stupid, plane and simple. I can't stand people who think they are better than others.

Anyway, hello all...... yeah this is me saying what I think. I do it a lot.... to much some say.

Ollie

[Oldskewl808]

For what it's worth. I bumped into Keanu many years ago at a motorcycle parts shop in Los Angeles. He was riding a vintage Norton Commando so I know he is a nostalgic type of person.
I think there is much more to the man than most people see.

[vidgamer]

I think he's a decent actor, but "wooden" might apply sometimes. He got stuck in people's minds as a goofy character from some of his earlier roles, I suppose. It happens. It took a while before I could see TJ Hooker instead of Captain Kirk driving a police car. ;-)

I just restored my old cassette deck to working condition. Am I nostalgic? ;-)

I do have a couple of film cameras here waiting to be used, but I think the convenience of digital just wins me over. Film seems so expensive that I tend not to use it, ever waiting for a "special occasion".