X100 1.20 Firmware update (this is a big one!) - Page 2

David_Manning · 03-21-2012

So, I checked and the camera operated as it was supposed to while checking the previous (onboard) firmware.

Followed instructions. Voilà! Problems before even updating. The firmware screen won't appear, and the camera stays ON after I turn the switch off. I had to remove the battery and reinstall it to get it to come alive and shutdown.

I guess I'm "the one" this time with problems (again)...and I CAN read and follow instructions! :O

Nelson Tan · 03-21-2012

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Originally Posted by Nelson Tan

I can't tell you how unimaginably happy I am to be able to select "ISO AUTO CONTROL" from the ISO value list...

I spoke too soon. Updated my firmware and discovered that while it is possible to set Auto ISO from the ISO Selection within the menu, it is NOT possible to go to Auto ISO from the "Fn Button" which I've assigned for quick selection of ISO speeds. Sigh... kinda defeats the purpose of quick selection, no?

The upside is that the X100 seems more responsive in terms of autofocusing and changing screens in the menu than before.

rbelyell · 03-21-2012

well i guess, but i really dont have any trouble setting zone focus externally on the lcd, it takes literally 5 seonds. you also dont have to leave the lcd on, just push the 'view mode' button once as your lifting the camera, make your setting, press it once again, good to go! but in either case the 'fly by wire' nature of the focus ring seems not so relevent to effective zone focusing on the X. i more understand if you are lamenting the lack of zone/f stop markers on the lens.

kermaier · 03-21-2012

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Originally Posted by rbelyell

well i guess, but i really dont have any trouble setting zone focus externally on the lcd, it takes literally 5 seonds. you also dont have to leave the lcd on, just push the 'view mode' button once as your lifting the camera, make your setting, press it once again, good to go! but in either case the 'fly by wire' nature of the focus ring seems not so relevent to effective zone focusing on the X. i more understand if you are lamenting the lack of zone/f stop markers on the lens.

Yes, that's it exactly - I am missing the focus distance and depth-of-field scales marked on the lens barrel. Having those scales requires that the focus ring has hard stops at defined positions for close focus and infinity focus, rather than allowing the ring to turn indefinitely in both directions. I guess you're right that, so long as the above condition is met, it's irrelevant whether the focus ring's position is transmitted to the lens' focusing apparatus via mechanical linkage or electronic signal.

::Ari

Mlehrman · 03-21-2012

Thanks for the advice - I'll try it later today.

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Originally Posted by keytarjunkie

Yes, it's much more practical than Fuji's website instructions. I just download the file, put it onto a formatted card, start the camera in update mode, and update it.

andy_v · 03-21-2012

No doubt, in dim light AF is better and faster now.

Mlehrman · 03-22-2012

Tested AF in extremely dim light yesterday - the function is much more sensitive and much faster.

Bike Tourist · 03-22-2012

I posted this by itself, but maybe it will be seen better here:

Before the Ver. 1.20 firmware upgrade my jpeg files were named "_DSF". After the upgrade they are now named "DSCF".

Is there any significance to this? Did I inadvertently change a setting?

Spyro · 03-22-2012

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Originally Posted by Mlehrman

Tested AF in extremely dim light yesterday - the function is much more sensitive and much faster.

same here, I just took some photo at ISO3200, f2, 1/30 and AF would lock every time in half a second without fail. Seriously it doesnt get more low light than this for me, after that I'm entering tripod territory and AF becomes irrelevant anyway.

Is it all in my head or is Fuji quietly upgrading AF little by little with every FU??

OlliL · 03-22-2012

Mine seems to expose different.
I used to turn the comp dial to -1/6 EV before the update and now I'm happy with 0...

Strange

kermaier · 03-22-2012

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Originally Posted by Mlehrman

Tested AF in extremely dim light yesterday - the function is much more sensitive and much faster.

+1 same experience here.

Snacks · 03-22-2012

Maybe it's just the benefits of a formatted memory card, but I have found low light focusing to be better too. Great to see that Fuji is being supportive!

gavinlg · 03-22-2012

The AF has definitely been upgraded with every firmware update. Honestly it's now at a level where it's both quick and accurate, even in low light.

umcelinho · 03-22-2012

damn, can't wait to update the firmware on mine when i get home!

Keith · 03-22-2012

At $800 used this is becoming an interesting camera ...... thinking!!!!!!

Bob Michaels · 03-22-2012

Fuji USA returned my camera yesterday after upgrading the firmware to 1.13, not 1.20. They had it to replace the lens assembly because of the sticky aperture problem.

The repair and 1.13 firmware upgrade was Tuesday, 3/20/12. Possibly Fuji wants the 1.20 upgrade to be user choice for some time period until they are sure of no hidden problems.

Thanks to Fuji USA for having no problems with me telling them I had no warranty card or proof of purchase as I bought the camera used.

gavinlg · 03-22-2012

Ok, so I just did some low light AF testing in my dark house at night. I found the darkest I could fairly reliably get a lock on low contrast objects was iso 6400, f2, 1/8th. The light and contrast was so low that I was struggling to see the subject I was trying to focus on through the OVF. At this level, as long as there was a line of contrast in the subject ( for instance brown/grey books on a white wooden table, extremely low contrast, no light source within 5 meters or so), I could get a lock. I don't have my 5d with me, but I'm pretty sure it would have lower AF lock success rate in this condition. If it could lock, it would be after about 2-3 seconds of racking the lens in And out to try to find contrast. By comparison in this light the x100 takes about half a second, never any longer.

So yeah, first impression is that low light AF is now mighty impressive on the x100.

paulfish4570 · 03-22-2012

wow. way to go bob.
courtesy of my techno-savvy bride, mine is updated to 1.2
here is a shot from a few minutes ago, handheld, macro, f2.8, iso 250, very cloudy:

focus is much snappier, very little hunting, which had been an issue on macro.

paulfish4570 · 03-22-2012

it is pretty dark in my cabin this morning because of heavy overcast. very quick focus on dimly lit objects ...

maggieo · 03-22-2012

Even the macro AF is quicker now.

PrecisionCamera · 03-22-2012

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Originally Posted by Keith

At $800 used this is becoming an interesting camera ...... thinking!!!!!!

Didn't you already have one of these Keith?

akptc · 03-22-2012

If only the new firmware allowed for custom shutter sounds.. like the Leica thump.. maybe the next version..

OlliL · 03-22-2012

Yeah, I want mine to scream "KANPA" as soon as I push the shutter button.

Keith · 03-22-2012

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Originally Posted by PrecisionCamera

Didn't you already have one of these Keith?

Yes as we all know .... I did. Define irony for me!

But it went to a good home and a worthy recipient!

If this improvement in AF performance doesn't turn out to be pie in the sky stuff I see little reason not to own one at the sort of prices they go for used. Not to mention I actually have the money to buy one now due to a complete change in my financial situation. The Xpro seems attractive but a body and three lenses is up around the three grand mark .... for that sort of money I could get the D800.

So many cameras ... so little time!

gavinlg · 03-22-2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsS_NXJJByA

old vs new firmware.
Mine was never as bad as this guys was on the old firmware, but still, you can see a huge difference.