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Last flying B-29 Super Fortress
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Is there really only one left? That's too bad if so -- and maybe I saw this one over Hartford CT maybe 15 years ago, flying maybe 500 feet up. Quite a sight. Pratt & Whitney engines and Hamilton Standard propellers, both made near Hartford.
Did you go for a ride in it?
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The rides were like $600 out of my league. BTW my dad was a navigator on 18 missions in WWII, in one these giant sardine cans.
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Where is that B-29 based- S. florida? Out here in Mesa, AZ, we have a B-24 and B-25, think they are a lot cheaper ($300+/-)
Wonderful pictures!
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That is a good subject and nice photos.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KoNickon
Is there really only one left? That's too bad if so -- and maybe I saw this one over Hartford CT maybe 15 years ago, flying maybe 500 feet up. Quite a sight. Pratt & Whitney engines and Hamilton Standard propellers, both made near Hartford.
Did you go for a ride in it?
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Last airworthy example, bear in mind there are some static examples (Enola Gay comes immediately to mind!).
There could have been another one, but someone decided it would be OK to taxi the Kee Bird with a loose gas can rattling around and she went up in flames. Legend...
Awesome images by the way. So jealous. Would love to have a look over Fifi some day.
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The Museum of Flight in Seattle has a recently-restored B-29 on the premises, but I don't believe it's airworthy. It's currently shrink-wrapped to protect it from the elements--sort of a cross between Christo and Curtis LeMay.
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When I was a kid, my family used to live near an Air Force base in the southwest, and in the boneyard there used to sit a nearly complete B-29. A few kids used to sneak into the boneyard and play in the old planes (the ones which were not sealed up). The B-29 was a favorite due to it's size. I have never flown a plane, except in my imagination, but I have sat in the pilots seat of a B-29, which was close enough for a 10 year old.
The air police used to patrol the boneyard a couple of times a day, and I was scared to death of their big German shepherd.
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I was just at the Boeing Museum of Flight about a month ago and there was one sitting outside, completely wrapped in white plastic, props and all. I figured they are protecting it from the weather until it can be restored for a static display.
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Quote:
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When I was a kid, my family used to live near an Air Force base in the southwest, and in the boneyard there used to sit a nearly complete B-29. A few kids used to sneak into the boneyard and play in the old planes (the ones which were not sealed up). The B-29 was a favorite due to it's size. I have never flown a plane, except in my imagination, but I have sat in the pilots seat of a B-29, which was close enough for a 10 year old.
The air police used to patrol the boneyard a couple of times a day, and I was scared to death of their big German shepherd.
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The last place I worked there was an old architect who as a kid of about 17, towards the end of WWII, had worked on the gun control computers on B-29s. Can you imagine?
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The documentary of the recovery of the Kee Bird brought me to tears the first time I saw it. Not for the aircraft but the men who gave their all to save it, and lost, some who lost all.
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Don't get me wrong; I have a lot of sympathy for the family of Rick Krieg (correct spelling?) and those who laboured under such horrendous conditions; but the decision to move the aircraft with the APU being supplied from a loose can sloshing fuel through the interior of the aeroplane, which is essentially what caused the fire, was a very bad one. The book about the project is very kind to all involved; perhaps too kind to some.
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Or perhaps where she happened to be when the photo was taken?
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The flag of the Lone Star State should give a clue as to where FiFi's home base is located.
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It is good to know that there is still one airworthy B-29. I would really love to see her flying. Thanks for sharing those photos.
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Thank you for posting this. My uncle Bill (Col. William Reinman, USAAF (retired)) is a former test pilot, and he quite literally "wrote the book" (flight manual) on the B-29.
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The flag of the Lone Star State should give a clue as to where FiFi's home base is located.
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At Addison airport. If you are in the area, stop and check out the Cavanaugh museum. A lot of great aircraft there.
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I shot two rolls of 220, and some 35mm when it was in Columbus, OH a long time ago. Lots of close details, like your bomb bay shot, and of course, inside the cockpit. It actualy made it to town twice while I lived there, but the second time I didn't go inside, as there was a larger crowd, and I didn't want to keep someone else from the pleasure. But there were plenty of other planes to see that time, so the exterior shots were all I needed. And the Kee Bird documentary was heart rending, in all aspects. I was in total shock the first time I watched the ending. And if I had the money, $600 dollars is not too much for a ride like that.
PF
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I got to see Fifi up close in Greensboro NC a few years ago and came back the next day to watch her fire up those engines and fly away. Later I got a ride in a B 17 (Liberty Belle) and it was well worth the $400.
More important, when these planes visit so do the veterans. Typically a thin old man on his daughters arm with a 10,000 yard stare. These vets are getting fewer and fewer and I have been blessed to know a few. God Bless them. Joe
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Where is that B-29 based- S. florida? Out here in Mesa, AZ, we have a B-24 and B-25, think they are a lot cheaper ($300+/-) 
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I'm looking at that website right now - there are two or three things I have to do now, after seeing the possibility. The 20 minute flight in a biplane looks incredible.
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Dad flew combat and PoW camp missions in the B-29 out of Guam and Saipan. FiFi is the last in the air, but there are about 15-20 B-29s around the world still in static display. It was a very difficult plane to keep in the air in it's day, and it's no better now. $600 is well worth the experience.
Dad always said he survived the war because he was in a B-29; he thought the B-17s in the 8th AF (Britain) had far greater casualties. Several of his friends didn't come back from the 8th and one close one who did was not the same after. But, a couple of years ago I looked up Dad's unit's casualty rate during his combat service and it was 50%, equal to the worst unit in the 8th. Same odds, you just died in differently.
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Wonderful war bird - thanks for the pictures!
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"Bock's Car", the B-29 that bombed Nagasaki is displayed at the Air Force Museum in Dayton Ohio.
And of course there is a Russian B-29 reverse-engineered copy which was designated the Tupolev Tu-4 (NATO name "Bull") on static display at the Monino Air Force Museum in Moscow.
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...new old stock
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This is one of the many WWII aircraft that I grew up with, even though Dad was in the Navy and this was an Army/U.S. Air Force bomber. These aircraft hold such a special and an untouchable place within my psyche that even just the mention of their name triggers a flood of B&W images through my mind of flak peppered skies & sun glinting off silver aircraft bodies and a seemingly endless number of bombs raining down from them...these are the memories of this "military brat". When one of these bombers landed at N.A.S. Ford Island, Pearl Harbor, (a ultra rare occurrence for such a short runway), Dad took me to see it. We rode a ferry boat past the wreck of the U.S.S. Arizona and Dad would always remind me of the thousand + sailors in their eternal sleep there.
Oh well, did not mean to go there so I'll stop and say thanks for posting this.
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The Cavanaugh is top shelf all the way! They have a F-104 which is one of the more beautiful jets ever!
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Beautiful, yes, but also lovingly named "Earth Nail" and "Widowmaker" (at least in northern Germany where most of the German F-104s were based). The Luftwaffe lost 30% of their Starfighters and 108 pilots to accidents.
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I'll have to head down there to take a look. My father piloted a B29 during WWII. I've heard lots of stories but I've never seen one in the flesh.
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Originally Posted by Chuck Albertson
The Museum of Flight in Seattle has a recently-restored B-29 on the premises, but I don't believe it's airworthy. It's currently shrink-wrapped to protect it from the elements--sort of a cross between Christo and Curtis LeMay.
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They have a F-104 which is one of the more beautiful jets ever!
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I prefer props, but I do like the F-104 and the early model F-86 Sabers. Otherwise, jets are ugly.
I'll have to see if I still have an old copy of Air Classics that told of the NF-104A used in USAF test pilot school. It described the typical flight profile. An abbreviated description is in Wikipedia under NF-104A.
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