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Old 02-22-2012   #76
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While you can set it up that way, I think that puts it at a huge disadvantage to cameras that can automatically adjust to the various lighting conditions without user input. Plus it's also fairly easy to inadvertently move the focus dial on an XA. IMO, a P&S has either AF or fixed focus and full AE (at least as an option) or one shutter speed. Scale focus and rangefinders—regardless of how small or easy they are to use—are their own class of cameras and it seems RFF agrees since they created separate forum sections for each.

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With the XA, you just set (hyperfocal) distance, aperture and shoot. Leave the exposure setting where it is until conditions change. Sorta like HCB used to do. I hear he was a pretty good photographer who captured some neat moments.
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Old 02-22-2012   #77
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I don't know how people serious about photography can be satisfied by Digicams with such tiny sensors, for me they're good for pictures on the internet though.
Under good conditions (what one encounters most of the time), small sensors can yield astonishingly good image quality. Enough, certainly, for a 12x18" print. This is especially so if good technique is used.
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Old 02-22-2012   #78
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It all depends what you mean by 'pocketable'. I mean, my Franka Rolfix II will fit in some of my trouser pockets, when folded.

Folded Franka Rolfix 2 by Antony J Shepherd, on Flickr
Admittedly I have to keep hitching my trousers up at that side, and have a tendency to walk in circles, but it's still pocketable!!!

But seriously, I have to say my Ricoh GRD is my most truly pocketable camera and while I've had it six years now it's my go-everywhere digital.

As far as film goes, there's my Vivitar Ultra-Wide and Slim, the Minox GTS, the Rollei B35, the Olympus EE2, the Trip 35 or the Minolta Hi-Matic F, which while it's a rangefinder is full auto for everything else, so I think still counts as a P&S.
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Old 02-22-2012   #79
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It all depends what you mean by 'pocketable'. I mean, my Franka Rolfix II will fit in some of my trouser pockets, when folded.

Folded Franka Rolfix 2 by Antony J Shepherd, on Flickr
Admittedly I have to keep hitching my trousers up at that side, and have a tendency to walk in circles, but it's still pocketable!!!
Agreed, As does my Isolette's. But they are Fully manual cameras and not P&S IMHO.
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Under good conditions (what one encounters most of the time), small sensors can yield astonishingly good image quality. Enough, certainly, for a 12x18" print. This is especially so if good technique is used.
Indeed - technique becomes more important as the format gets smaller! But certainly, even a small sensor camera, when used on a tripod (and getting all the other basics right), can yield amazing results. Unfortunately, P&S cameras don't often get used that way, and their reputation suffers as a result.

I'm quite sure 8x10 and whole plate film photographers said the same about the Leica when it came out. "How can you get good results from such a small-format camera?"
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Just curious to see what you guys think is the best point and shoot that will easily fit into your pants pocket.

Film or digital. Or both.
I don't know much about digital cameras, but whe my daughter the writer asked for a pocketable digicam for Christmas two years ago, I went down to BestBuy and bought her a Panasonic (don't know the model) that sported a nice little Leica moderate zoom lens for $189, and the pics she gets with it are amazing. Her only complaint has been that she can't really see the screen very well in sunlight. It is VERY thin! A friend of mine bought one the next year just like hers, but his has a built in GPS feature! Shows up as part of the EXIF data. Very handy.
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Old 02-22-2012   #82
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Leica D-Lux 5 / LX 5...
Small enough (fits in my jeans pocket), great lens, 1:1 format... always with me since I got it...
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I can understand the definition of P&S as having to include auto-focus. For me, however, I don't limit it thus. Just my view.
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Canon PowerShot S95
This is a very popular point and shoot camera that offers excellent image quality, and also gives you the ability to shoot 720p HD videos. Low light performance is also adequate, though the battery life could be better. The design is pretty compact, but this makes it a little difficult to grip properly. Nevertheless, the 10MP resolution, the 3.0 inches LCD screen and the ton of features available make this a worthy choice. At $449, this camera may be slightly pricey, but its quality is unquestionable.
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For film I'd say the Olympus Stylus Epic--its lens is outstanding! I also picked up a Yashica T4 in near-mint condition from Goodwill for $3.99. Yes, $3.99!!!

For digital I use my Canon S100, an amazing camera that goes everywhere I go. It produces superb pictures and the quality of the pictures at ISO 1600 is very impressive. 3200 is also quite usable.
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