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Martin Parr in the American South
Old 01-27-2012   #1
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Martin Parr in the American South

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...american-south
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Old 01-27-2012   #2
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Should be interesting.

10 years since this review made me smile (scroll down 2/3 of page).

John's appearance on Radio 4 to promote Martin Parr's new exhibit of pictures, October 2002

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Priceless Shuttleworth ...thanks for the link.
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Very cool... if it happens.
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I want someone to send me to document along the Trans Siberian Railway. My needs are minimal my assistant (ok wife) A variety of film Tri-x, Portra and Foma 100 in both 35mm and more importantly 120. 7 days in each of the small towns and a month in each city should do it, I don't mind simple apartments but bathrooms must be light tight. We do not require a massive budget for living expenses and finally if someone kindly offers me this gruelling assignment I might get a large format to add to the options.
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What!? A magnum photographer using a canon to take photos! He should have his membership revoked.
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Hmmm.... not sure what to make out of the "oddball" stuff he has in the video.

It surely does not represent everyday life in Atlanta, Georgia. I would think the average middle-class person I know would be offended.

All I saw were the overweight people as if that were the norm. It is not. Then there were the oddballs dressing up and having a good time at the baseball game, etc. This is not the norm either. Granted, that is what he went after and he got it. But, it sends the wrong message about the Southerners who are mostly transplants from elsewhere anyway. I am one of the few who were actually born in Atlanta. Just another version of how easy it is for some people to poke fun at the people I have lived with my entire life, who were not even in the video.

The video, at best, gives a negative impression of the "American South" that is not at all representative of what reality truly is in Atlanta, let alone the entire region.

I would give the video a poor grade at best. The rest of the work, let's see.
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Hmmm.... not sure what to make out of the "oddball" stuff he has in the video.

It surely does not represent everyday life in Atlanta, Georgia. I would think the average middle-class person I know would be offended.

All I saw were the overweight people as if that were the norm. It is not. Then there were the oddballs dressing up and having a good time at the baseball game, etc. This is not the norm either. Granted, that is what he went after and he got it. But, it sends the wrong message about the Southerners who are mostly transplants from elsewhere anyway. I am one of the few who were actually born in Atlanta. Just another version of how easy it is for some people to poke fun at the people I have lived with my entire life, who were not even in the video.

The video, at best, gives a negative impression of the "American South" that is not at all representative of what reality truly is in Atlanta, let alone the entire region.

I would give the video a poor grade at best. The rest of the work, let's see.
... I suspect it was not his intention to document the middle classes, but the society in general
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... I suspect it was not his intention to document the middle classes, but the society in general

I understand what you mean... but by that definition, he failed. It became a representation of the American South when, at best, it was a documentary of sideshows.
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I understand what you mean... but by that definition, he failed. It became a representation of the American South when, at best, it was a documentary of sideshows.
It was very like the inhabitants of Charlotte NC at play in my opinion ... well without all the soldiers

I've not been to Atlanta so I probably shouldn't comment, but it generally had a southern flavour I feel
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He's not terribly flattering in his depictions of us Brits either. He has a quirky eye which does uncover certain 'truths', but if anyone were to make a judgement on a society based simply on his (or any other individual photographer's) viewpoint then there'd be a lot missed.

I think one needs a certain sense of humour to appreciate his stuff.
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Mr Parr deals with the absurdity of everyday life. Normal is something he might not be interested in!
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we certainly have our absurdities here. faulkner, et al, made a living from them ...
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Yes, I love the humor part... unfortunately, too many people who know nothing about the southern U.S. are not aware that this work (which is admittedly good!) is not representative of our region.

It must be fun to get paid to do these whimsical projects.
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It looks like he gave up on the Nikon ring light and now uses those Fong diffusers. He should also go stand by the emptying of a cruise ship in Puerto Vallarta.

Thanks for link it is one of the best I've seen that really displays him in action.
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Yes, I love the humor part... unfortunately, too many people who know nothing about the southern U.S. are not aware that this work (which is admittedly good!) is not representative of our region.

It must be fun to get paid to do these whimsical projects.
Anyone who knows his work would not make that mistake ... anyway it's about photography not peoples' regional sensitivity
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His style divides opinion: look at his complicated route to acceptance by Magnum. I find myself drawn to his work and see it as gentle teasing rather than insult.

When I first saw his pictures I was dismissive. What was the point of his cup of tea? There were 1,000s of tables carrying thousands of cups of tea on 1,000s of checked tablecloths every day at that time. After a while I realised the photo must be having an effect on me if i could recall it so clearly. Then I realised that familiar scene was gone and his was the only picture of it that I could recall. I certainly never had the vision to take such a mundane photo that could become such a reminder of a place and time.
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What an *sshole.
Spend your own money, Martin.
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What an *sshole.
Spend your own money, Martin.
... and he speaks so highly of your work!
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Great link! Thanks for sharing.
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i think mr. parr looks to be a fun guy with a fun eye.
whether a documentary film is worth the effort, i have no idea.
but i'd go see an exhibit of parr's work.
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When you look for Martin Parr on YouTube, you'll find some very interesting documentaries such as "Think of England".
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... and he speaks so highly of your work!
I'm not commenting on his work, but for the record I don't like it.

I think that he shouldn't be asking people to donate to a for-profit project when he has plenty of his own money. Are any of the investors going to see long term returns for this? He can sell 2 or 3 sheets of photo paper with his signature on them to fund this.

Kickstarter is supposed to be for people struggling to fund a project, not vanity hacks who don't want to waste their own money on their own projects.

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What an *sshole.
Spend your own money, Martin.
You're not kicking in money to Parr, it's the director of the short film trying to fund finishing it.

Seems like there are a ton of docs coming out following photographers working these days. Not sure any of them work incredibly well as films.
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Good point Bob. I must say when I followed the link I was surprised to see that Mr Parr was asking for sponsors. Maybe he's got a gambling habit to feed?

I do like his photographs, but not enough to buy any. Oddly, just this morning, I was surfing round the Amazon web site and was tempted to buy one of his post-card collections.
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Hmmm.... not sure what to make out of the "oddball" stuff he has in the video.

It surely does not represent everyday life in Atlanta, Georgia. I would think the average middle-class person I know would be offended.
I didn`t think it oddball .....rather fun in fact.

He`s from the north west of England and so will, I`m sure, have shot in Blackpool .
Now that can be oddball.
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You're not kicking in money to Parr, it's the director of the short film trying to fund finishing it.
Got it. My wife(a documentary film maker, herself) just pointed that out to me.

I still don't like it.
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I didn`t think it oddball .....rather fun in fact.

He`s from the north west of England and so will, I`m sure, have shot in Blackpool .
Now that can be oddball.
I have The Last Resort somewhere, that's not very flattering either
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I have The Last Resort somewhere, that's not very flattering either
Yeah, but that was shot on the Wirral and we all know what they're like up there!
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Well, I learn something everyday. Thanks, Michael for posting this and for the others' comments as well.

Never heard of Martin before but now have some fun reading/watching to do over the weekend.
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Yeah, but that was shot on the Wirral and we all know what they're like up there!
... Ah, true ... I shot a couple of rolls in Rhyl last year
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Here's another bit of video for you to look at, Dave.

http://www.veoh.com/watch/v6964270Zz...+(Paper+Movies)
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Please excuse me reviving this thread, but it was j_j's 'cup of tea' reference that got me thinking. I eventually remembered Jon starting this short thread and the onward link here which may add somethink.. or nothink.
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He seems to focus on class, crass and cliche, tweaking the "small", negative emotions. I don't have much appetite for it.

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