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Old 02-09-2012   #401
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Hasn't Canon had something similar for a couple of years? Up, down, and rotation?
I would love to know just how you'd compensate for rotation when you are using optical image stabilization.
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Hasn't Canon had something similar for a couple of years? Up, down, and rotation?
According to the reports, 5 axis is a world first in this camera. I would like to think Olympus would not brag on this if it were not so. Of course I realize they have been putting out other fires lately.

What is Canon? And would their stabilization be for some sort of targeting system on a military weapon that lobs large explosive charges many miles.
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I would love to know just how you'd compensate for rotation when you are using optical image stabilization.
Don't know. It is all too tech for me.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2009/7/22/canonhybridIS
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Don't know. It is all too tech for me.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2009/7/22/canonhybridIS
Ah, I was thinking rotation as in rotation around the optical axis (while the Canon system compensate for tilting and swinging, to use LF cam movement terminology), which I believe the Olympus cam is correcting for. That, of course, is not doable with optics alone.
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No wrong boxes ticked here!
Agreed. Except that it's still a 4/3 sized sensor. Fine for most no doubt, but I want that physical space.

It's also interesting how it keeps the SLR design, while Fuji is going for rangefinder design. It doesn't matter at all since it's electronic, but will be interesting to see what people like more.
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You can also send this camera and lens through the car wash.

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You can also send this camera and lens through the car wash.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhO9YDI8cHk
They really trust their weather proofing.
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They really trust their weather proofing.
Olympus weather-proofing has always been... proven:



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I have to reluctantly agree that EVF's are the future, but I don't see to many articles devoted to this topic. I like watching TV, but even the most expensive screens aren't anything like just plain old looking out of the window..
True. But OK, try to take a photo with a window pane. Go ahead and wait for an OVF that equals an OM-4 vf. How many photos will you miss during the wait?
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Hey, I am technically a digital guy (started with digital, adopted film later)... unlike Earl (Trius)
I remember when George Eastman had his roll film press conference.
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How come no one has mentioned the new Olympus that's even smaller than Pentax Q.





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[quote=kuzano;1808512]In 1972, when Olympus brought out the original small SLR, they pissed off Leica. The new camera was branded the Olympus M1.

Well, Leica immediately jumped in Olympus' shorts and very few M1's left the Olympus factory without being changed to OM-1. Very rare... the Oly M1 fetches high prices when they turn up.

I have one that I traded a red dial Leica IIIf for in Japan in 1975. I gave it to my dad when I got back. He just gave it back to me. It has some desilvering of the prism due to the foam problem, but is otherwise in pretty good shape for a used camera. If there is any interest in it, I might be willing to deal. pm me if so.

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In 1972, when Olympus brought out the original small SLR, they pissed off Leica. The new camera was branded the Olympus M1.

Well, Leica immediately jumped in Olympus' shorts and very few M1's left the Olympus factory without being changed to OM-1. Very rare... the Oly M1 fetches high prices when they turn up.

I have one that I traded a red dial Leica IIIf for in Japan in 1975. I gave it to my dad when I got back. He just gave it back to me. It has some desilvering of the prism due to the foam problem, but is otherwise in pretty good shape for a used camera. If there is any interest in it, I might be willing to deal. pm me if so.

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There is one on ebay now for $975 US. It's a relisting by a big German seller. No takers so far at that price.

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Jiri Ecer on eBay has sold many Olympus M-1, much cheaper than that. $975 for a (O)M-1 is insane.
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Two interesting things I read today:

- The sensor is *not* the same one that is on whatever that Panasonic camera everyone seem to be touting. G3? GH3? GVXH3? whatever... (I have zero interest in *any* camera body from Pansonic; I like some of their lenses, but only because I can use it on my E-P2). This should be interesting because with a new sensor, the hardware limit has been pushed, not just software tweaking.

- Pre-orders of E-M5 beats the Fuji X-1 PRO ??? now that's surprising.
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- Pre-orders of E-M5 beats the Fuji X-1 PRO ??? now that's surprising.
Not suprising... a lot cheaper and despite what people around her might think, people seem to actually prefer the SLR style body to a RF style body.
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As evidenced by the E-300 and Pana DMC-L1

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Not suprising... a lot cheaper and despite what people around her might think, people seem to actually prefer the SLR style body to a RF style body.
The Olympus E300, while a very capable camera, emulated a rangefinder body. It was not well received in the general market place. The ensuing E500 was given a prism hump, changing the acceptance factor considerably in favor of SLR styling.

The average person wants a hump!!!...so to speak.
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Not suprising... a lot cheaper and despite what people around her might think, people seem to actually prefer the SLR style body to a RF style body.
And many of us already have M43 lenses, while Fuji's X-mount and lenses are new. Fuji plans to offer an M-mount adapter, but there are already M43 adapters for those and many other lenses.
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And many of us already have M43 lenses, while Fuji's X-mount and lenses are new. Fuji plans to offer an M-mount adapter, but there are already M43 adapters for those and many other lenses.
I will say this:
Whoever creates the first full-frame mirrorless camera in the future, will get my attention (yes, even Sony). Right now I'm feeling really dumb using my rare and optically excellent Konica Hexanon 35/2 AR on my E-P2 where it becomes a 70mm lens. Ugh!
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Although it's named an OM-D it reminds me more of the Olympus FTL camera rather than the Olympus OM camera line.
That's because the faux pentaprism peak is squared off.
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I will say this:
Whoever creates the first full-frame mirrorless camera in the future, will get my attention (yes, even Sony). Right now I'm feeling really dumb using my rare and optically excellent Konica Hexanon 35/2 AR on my E-P2 where it becomes a 70mm lens. Ugh!
But Will, it's an excellent portrait lens! Although I mostly use wides, I'm excited about using my Hexanon 40/1.8 on a m4/3 body. Fast 80mm effective focal length Hex? Oh yeah.
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I will say this:
Whoever creates the first full-frame mirrorless camera in the future, will get my attention (yes, even Sony). Right now I'm feeling really dumb using my rare and optically excellent Konica Hexanon 35/2 AR on my E-P2 where it becomes a 70mm lens. Ugh!
srsly! i want to use my zuiko 18mm on a digital body so bad.... :'(
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srsly! i want to use my zuiko 18mm on a digital body so bad.... :'(
I have a m-Zuiko 17mm :-)

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I have a m-Zuiko 17mm :-)

Oh wait. Nevermind.


that isn't to say that i'm not happy with my native m4/3 lenses, of course. i love my Panasonic 20mm. but to get a real 18mm i'd have to go fisheye with the Panasonic 8mm. the zuiko 18mm's distortion is a lot less noticeable.
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But Will, it's an excellent portrait lens! Although I mostly use wides, I'm excited about using my Hexanon 40/1.8 on a m4/3 body. Fast 80mm effective focal length Hex? Oh yeah.
The thing is, Earl, I really like 35mm focal length (that's why I ended up with lots of 35mm lenses ). I have Zuiko 85/2 for portraits and that's more than enough for me.

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that isn't to say that i'm not happy with my native m4/3 lenses, of course. i love my Panasonic 20mm. but to get a real 18mm i'd have to go fisheye with the Panasonic 8mm. the zuiko 18mm's distortion is a lot less noticeable.
Crystal, you can get the Zuiko 9-18mm native to m4/3rd at about the same price as your 18mm. The size of the lens is incredibly small for the focal length range that it offers.
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But Will ... your 85/2 is a 170/2 on the E-M5. Not exactly portrait then!
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Crystal, you can get the Zuiko 9-18mm native to m4/3rd at about the same price as your 18mm. The size of the lens is incredibly small for the focal length range that it offers.
thanks for the recommendation.
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But Will ... your 85/2 is a 170/2 on the E-M5. Not exactly portrait then!
Which is why I'm now sticking to digital Zuikos for these new bodies. Were the HG line is not so expensive

Incidentally, 170mm f/2 is *very* useful when you're covering an event where there is no good amount of light, and you're confined in one place (like a mass).
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Which is why I'm now sticking to digital Zuikos for these new bodies. Were the HG line is not so expensive

Incidentally, 170mm f/2 is *very* useful when you're covering an event where there is no good amount of light, and you're confined in one place (like a mass).
Excellent point. I use a Leica Elmar 9cm f/4 right now for that purpose (light, fast-ish for that FL), but am seriously considering a Jupiter-9 or a Serenar 85mm f/2.

You have to think of legacy lenses as being "repurposed": your 50mm isn't a normal lens anymore, but it's a kick-ass portrait lens, 90mm becomes moderate-to-long telephoto, etc.

Thinking in 135-format terms is so 20th century

(I say this in jest, obviously)
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