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Old 11-22-2011   #1
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RFF Postcard Project, anyone?

I have participated in a few of the Print Swaps we've done here at RFF and enjoyed doing so.
But, I was thinking that something a bit more casual might be fun as well.

So, how about a postcard project?

I'm thinking to collect email and mailing addresses from everyone who wants to play, then I will email all those addresses to all of us. We then mail a 4" x 6" postcard to all the addresses in the list.

BW or color, no subject restrictions--well other than what the post office won't mail or might get someone in trouble; the image will be visible after all!, the same image on all your postcards( in other words, if we get 100 of us doing this, each person will make 99 postcards of the same photo), and home printed or outsourced--whichever the sender prefers.

Also, I'm thinking that since this time of year can be pretty hectic, to plan for mailing early in January 2012.

I suggest 4"x6" size because, at least here in the United States, that size is the least expensive to mail--29 cents domestic and 80 or 98 cents international.

Who wants to play?

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EDIT: As of 8 February, 2012 starting with post #479 (http://rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1807624#post1807624) you can see what we have sent to each other. Page 19, I think, if you have the default post number per page set. I see 40 posts per page when I'm logged in and that means starting on page 12.
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Old 11-22-2011   #2
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Great idea Rob sounds like it could be fun . I'm not sure about mailing 100 or so it would get pricey particulary international as I'm sure it would turn out to be. So long as the postage doesn't get to extreme I'm up for playing

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Edit - maybe groups of ten or twenty would work if there's enough interest
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Chris,
OK!
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this sounds fun, but it could, indeed, get really expensive at 50 cents per print plus 29 cents for postage. that's 79 cents per print. 100 cards = $79.
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I can offer a solution to the expense, but it will be somewhat self-serving, so if this doesn't fly, that's okay.

1) My website, leonin.net, is hosted by Smugmug (Pro account).

2) I can create a password-protected gallery where I can post your images (you email your images to me) - you can watermark your images with your copyright if you'd like.

3) We can set the price at $0.50 (Luster or glossay) and $1 (metallic) - 4x6 prints ONLY. This covers my cost plus the Smugmug commission plus any incremental tax liability.

4) Whoever wants to order a photo can enter the password (I'll post as a thread here at RFF). Smugmug prints and ships the prints.

5) I can take down the gallery after an agreed-upon period (a month? two months?)

Again, this is only a suggestion, but it does eliminate the printing and mailing costs for the photographer.

Rob - since you are the OP, I will defer to you to make the final call. Let me know.

Joe (backalley) - if my post is in violation of RFF rules, please delete my post.
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Hmmm,
Thanks for you folks that already want to participate!

I don't think we'll get 100 of us for this but I do appreciate that the expense might get to be a bit much.

Kieth: yours' is a kind offer and if anyone wants to do this this way I think it would be fine but I want to print what I send myself and am happy to address and send 'em out from my local post office.

!00 is probably too large a number, so what number is better for everyone? 25? 50?

Or, how about this: I'll post my email address in this thread and who ever wants to play, up to what ever number we think will work, can send me their info during a specified time period--say, two weeks--after that, I will then send the list of us to each person and we can all then work towards mailing in the first week of January.

I'll let this "percolate" for a bit and see what y'all think.

I absolutely want this to be fun more than anything else!
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I like your way Rob. It is nice and simple.
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Great idea Rob! I'm kind-of obsessed with post cards- I've collected them for years, and love sending them. I'd love to be in on this project.
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Give it a try. If we really increase over 100, we might look for a new direction.
So count me in.
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Rob, I like the basic idea too rather than central printing and mailing. Just my preference.

How about we let this go as you suggest. If the numbers grow too large then when you send the addresses to the team do so assigning each person 25 or 50, however many names, to mail cards to. This way anyone who wants to can participate, the cost will be capped and everyone will get the same # of cards. If some folks would like to send cards to all, that would be fine too.

Ok, that is my idea.
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And not to forget: Every card sujet should be posted after the event in a separate gallery. Just to have a review in a few years on it.
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Rover,
I like your addition and I'll be happy to do that.

So. Today is the 23rd of November and I will be happy to start collecting addresses.
Please email me at: rob<dot>biemer<at>gmail<dot>com and put "RFF Postcard" in the subject line. Your address in the body of the email.

On the 10th of December, I will take all the addresses and send them out to the participants.

Which leads to this question: if we get a lot of people how many folks should I group together? If I'm counting right there are now 12 of us and hopefully some more folks will want to join in so I'm thinking 24 or 25?

But what number of cards are you each comfortable with?

Again, my address:

rob<dot>biemer<at>gmail<dot>com and put "RFF Postcard" in the subject line. Your address in the body of the email.

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I'm in as well! Sounds like a lot of fun.
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And... Damaso, where (or how) do you print your postcards?
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Count me in - I need practice printing, this will give me lots.

Has to be the same image on each card?

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Very cool - note that Ilford supplies paper in correct size and weight with the postcard form layout on the reverse side.

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Very cool - note that Ilford supplies paper in correct size and weight with the postcard form layout on the reverse side.

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http://www.freestylephoto.biz/834846...weight-4x6-100
Randy that is super cool.
It must be how darkroom printers spread the news about their services back in the old days
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This is for those who prefer online service:
http://www.zazzle.com/cr/design/pt-postcard

Or print on inkjet. Anyone know where to get high grade inkjet paper that already has postcard form on the back? I can't find anything other than Avery or other office-quality papers.

I'm thinking Ilford or Hahnemule class.
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This is for those who prefer online service:
http://www.zazzle.com/cr/design/pt-postcard

Or print on inkjet. Anyone know where to get high grade inkjet paper that already has postcard form on the back? I can't find anything other than Avery or other office-quality papers.

I'm thinking Ilford or Hahnemule class.
Yeah, 'twould be great if Ilford made the same in inkjet paper.

How's the print quality form Zazzle?

And lastly, speaking of Avery, it would be great to have the names and addresses in a spreadsheet so they would be easy to print onto labels! I'm sure the step of hand-addressing each one would kill it for me.
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My wife just forwarded this to me; Vistaprint is offering 100 postcards for free, you just pay for shipping. I think it ends pretty soon, though...

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Looks like you can print them on MOO as well... They let you use a different image for each card, usually the same back:

http://us.moo.com/products/packsize.html

Not free, but flexible.
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Count me in - I need practice printing, this will give me lots.

Has to be the same image on each card?

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Randy, well the idea is that each of us uses one image on our cards we are sending--in other words, when the list is final I will be making however many copies of the same photo to send to each of the other folks on the list.

And this is what I think I will be using:

http://www.redrivercatalog.com/brows...ble-sided.html
Not too expensive at $14.50 for 100 4" x 6" sheets and they are double sided so I can print my image on one side and a "typical" postcard layout on the other. Matte finish so I expect it to hold ink pretty well. Probably I'll need to feed them through my printer one at a time.

Not sure, yet, if I'll address these with a pen or print the addresses with my ink-jet; I may be able to put the addresses into a spreadsheet but I'm not very expert in Excel or Word. If I can I will and will then send them out to y'all that way, If I can't, then I will just send y'all the list.

Send me your addresses!
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I cut 8X10 fiber paper into 3 4X6 for postcard size. Fiber paper really has the weight as a postcard, and the reverse side goes well with ink. I just hand written 40+ postcards, licked 40 stamps and air mail stickers. Only took 1 hour to in the darkroom to get them out once you have everything set up.
Each post card would then cost me the equivalent of USD 0.22 cents ( I use Ilford MGIV FB ), and stamps cost the equivalent of USD 0.16 for anywhere around the world. If you add developer and fixer cost, I think each silver print postcard would cost USD 0.50.
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Hi Rob.. last time I did one of these at RFF it was a single print. It worked out fine. I'm up for some fun. I could send all the same but I'd like to send a mix of about 5 different shots just to make it a bit more interesting. There's a group of street photographers I belong to and we did one with 'post cards' We went on line and purchased a back to apply to the 4x6 prints it worked well.

I saw reference to two different counts. One for 50 the other for 100. I'd be up for 50 I don't feel like committing to 100 at this time of year
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I like your addition and I'll be happy to do that.

So. Today is the 23rd of November and I will be happy to start collecting addresses.
Please email me at: rob<dot>biemer<at>gmail<dot>com and put "RFF Postcard" in the subject line. Your address in the body of the email.

On the 10th of December, I will take all the addresses and send them out to the participants.

Which leads to this question: if we get a lot of people how many folks should I group together? If I'm counting right there are now 12 of us and hopefully some more folks will want to join in so I'm thinking 24 or 25?

But what number of cards are you each comfortable with?

Again, my address:

rob<dot>biemer<at>gmail<dot>com and put "RFF Postcard" in the subject line. Your address in the body of the email.

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I just sent my address. Depending on how many folks participate I hope to be able to share a photo with everyone.
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I'm in too. Great idea. I'm comfortable sending postcards to up to 25 people, more would be too expensive an time consuming for me.

One question was asked, that was not answered: must all my postcards have the same picture on it? I would prefer sending a couple of different images.
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I still opt for the initial idea: One man (woman!) one image. If we were finally 40 players, every one of us would receive 39 different images from all the people. And the ongoing discussion threads will talk about images that all of us did receive.

And it is cheeper too. And simpler, preparing 40 equal postcards than 40 different ones.

Of course, just my opinion.
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Sounds like a great idea. I am in.

Would 4x5" contact prints be acceptable? (I am not sure I manage 100 of them though )
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The basic idea for this postcard project is that each of us gets the same photos and I think that is an important part of the project's aesthetic.

Size: I suggested postcards because that size is the least expensive to mail.
For US mailers, the post office has this about postcard sizes:
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Maximum size is 6" long x 4 1/4" high.
Minimum size is 5" long x 3 1/2" high.
Max thickness is 0.016" (or 16pt paper).
Anything smaller than 3 1/2" tall, 5" long, or 0.007" thick can’t be mailed.
So, I think a 4 x 5 contact print would be fine.
It seems to be a bit different for mailing to international addresses from the US:
The maximum size is the same but the minimum size is different: 51/2" long by 3/12" high. Not sure why that is?

Two other things:
FIRSTLY: Because of our , ummm, hiatus...I think I will collect addresses for longer than until 10 December.
So, I will happily collect addresses until 24 December. And I will send the addresses out to every one by 1 January, 2012.
We should all plan to mail by the middle of January.

Which leads nicely into...
SECONDLY:As I type this, I have 8 or 9 addresses that folks sent me before the break. And we have around two dozen folks who've responded to this thread. So, a reminder of my email:

rob<dot>biemer<at>gmail<dot>com and put "RFF Postcard" in the subject line. Your address in the body of the email.

I promise not to use anyone's address for anything other than this project!

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How about just sending one picture to the person next in line on the list? The guy before me sends me a picture he took and I send one of my own to the next guy in line. So we all only need to mail one postcard. All entries could then be posted online as well.
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How about just sending one picture to the person next in line on the list? The guy before me sends me a picture he took and I send one of my own to the next guy in line. So we all only need to mail one postcard. All entries could then be posted online as well.
Ah, I wanted to get a bunch of postcards!

No one ever writes me. ;-(

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