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Four 35mm lenses shot at F2.8 on M9
Old 09-07-2011   #1
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Four 35mm lenses shot at F2.8 on M9

Leicashot was asking to see a comparison between the C-Biogon and Ver2 35/1.2 Nokton @2.8 yesterday, so I've taken a shot with both of these plus 35 Summarit and 35 Summilux Pre Asph. Nothing very scientific here Just a bit of fun! Extra brownie points if you can work out which lens is which

These are all converted to Jpeg in Capture One with no adjustments or sharpening.


EmptyName 1 by Redsnapper41, on Flickr

EmptyName 2 by Redsnapper41, on Flickr

EmptyName 3 by Redsnapper41, on Flickr

EmptyName 4 by Redsnapper41, on Flickr

EDIT:
The results are:

1. C Biogon
2. Summilux pre
3. Summarit
4. Nokton 35 1.2 ver 2
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Old 09-07-2011   #2
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i hope its the cheapest from all
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Old 09-07-2011   #3
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Hard for me to decide between #1 and #4, so I voted for #4, strictly for contrarian reasons.
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Old 09-07-2011   #4
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I can notice subtle differences but honestly can't say I prefer one over another.

#4 stands out the most with richer colour.
#3 seems a bit washed out/more exposed than the others.
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Old 09-07-2011   #5
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The light did change a little between shots and I didn't change the shutter speed so exposure might not be spot on, on all of them. With adjustments they may come closer together.
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Four more. Lenses in the same order


EmptyName 1a by Redsnapper41, on Flickr

EmptyName 2a by Redsnapper41, on Flickr

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EmptyName 4a by Redsnapper41, on Flickr
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I should say the order I've named the lenses in the first post bears no resemblance to the order in the pictures. I listed them randomly.
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Old 09-07-2011   #8
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If I had to guess, based on looking at these on my phone. Haha
I'd say...
1 is the summilux
2 is the biogon
3 is the summarit
4 is the nokton
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If I had to guess, based on looking at these on my phone. Haha
I'd say...
1 is the summilux
2 is the biogon
3 is the summarit
4 is the nokton
Two out of four, not bad considering you are looking from a phone. But which two?
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Old 09-07-2011   #10
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Hmm maybe 2 is the summarit and 3 is the biogon?
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the 1. of the 4 is always darker (like it would be stopped down a bit more) what makes the sky look a bit better. The differences are subtle - I find it hard to choose one over the others.

But you can borrow me the M9 together will all 4 for a week or two and I will gladly let you know my preferences then
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I don't want to give too much away at this point Ben, but lets just say your first guess had more correct than your second
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Haha dang.
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1- biogon
2- lux
3- summarit
4- nokton
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Old 09-07-2011   #15
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I honestly can't decide which one I like the most. They are very similar...

My guess:

1: biogon
2: summilux
3: summarit
4: nokton

EDIT: oops too slow -.-
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Old 09-07-2011   #16
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the 1. of the 4 is always darker (like it would be stopped down a bit more) what makes the sky look a bit better. The differences are subtle - I find it hard to choose one over the others.

But you can borrow me the M9 together will all 4 for a week or two and I will gladly let you know my preferences then
The light was changing, subtly and I left the shutter speed the same so that may account for the darker sky. I tried to change lenses as quick as possible but the wind was blowing so I was careful not to get sand anywhere near my equipment. With a bit of post processing I'm sure all four could be made to look virtually the same. Interesting to see which lens is getting the most votes so far and vice versa It will be interesting to see how/if the voting changes when people know which lens is which.
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Shouldn't this be in the digital section?
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Old 09-07-2011   #18
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Tricky, but I would guess:

1 - Nokton
2 - Summarit
3 - Zeiss
4 - Lux pre asph

But then again the second series of shots suggest the ZM is #2 as the highlights are blown. Oddly the shadows have more detail than some of the others which is not what I normally see in ZM negs. They normally have less.

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Shouldn't this be in the digital section?
Why's that Wes? It's more about the lenses on a Leica M than the camera medium used. But if the mods feel it's been wrongly posted I'm happy for it to be moved
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Old 09-07-2011   #20
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ok, here is my take:

1. Summilux pre-asph
2. Biogon
3. Nokton
4. Summarit

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this is fun!
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Old 09-07-2011   #21
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Honestly I can't see enough difference to make any real calculated conclusion. But I will say that I was more interested in how these lenses performed at 2.8 in sharpness across the frame. The Biogon-C is almost faultless at f/2.8, exhibiting biting contrast and sharpness wide open with a nice flat field, and I feel it's a challenge for any lens to beat that.
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I voted for #2, but .......... it may be a lighting issue, it is a bit less exposed than the others, and this can change appearance of tone/hue of the colors in comparison to the others.
I'm guessing #2 is the Lux, but may not be due to lighting (yes, thats my disclaimer!). And then again, I've never shot with the other 3 lenses. I shoot a lot of B&W like many others, so I would be interested in these same examples above in B&W!
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I prefer #1.
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Picture 1 in both sets I'd guess is the Summilux.
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Hm.

guess I like lens #1 best, because it makes the greens a bit more lush and I like greens...

Apart from that I'm not playing because I have not shot any of those four lenses and am unlikely to do so anytime soon!
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I like #1, which is either cron asph or biogon.
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By the way. To make the survey truly blinded, answer should be revealed only after the closure of the poll.
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I like #1, which is either cron asph or biogon.
The Cron Asph isn't one of the four lenses so it can't be that
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Lens 1 is my favourite, although lens 4 also looks nice to me (more so in first set however)
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By the way. To make the survey truly blinded, answer should be revealed only after the closure of the poll.
That's a good suggestion. I'll let it run for a bit longer before revealing which is which
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I meam that cron/summarit would give somwhat similar images.
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1 - -biogon
4 - summarit
2,3 - look the same
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Interesting. I have three of these four lenses myself, so no excuse if I miss one.

Based on this series:

Image no. 1: Nokton 35/1.2 ASPH ver II
Image no. 2: C Biogon 2,8/35 ZM
Image no. 3: Summarit 35
Image no. 4: Summilux 35 Pre-ASPH

So how'd I do?
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1 - -biogon
4 - summarit
2,3 - look the same
Sbelyaev, just to confirm the four lenses represented are, in no particular order Summarit, Nokton f1.2 ver2, summilux pre asph and C-Biogon.
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Old 09-07-2011   #35
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I voted for no. 4, but I have no skin in this game. My 35s are Summaron 2.5, W-Nikkor 2.5, and yestereday I bought a Nikon One-Touch with a 35 2,8 (I got ripped off by the two old white-haired ladies at the thrift store and paid $11` for the camera.)
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I picked 1 as the Summilux because,
in the oof areas there is a more defined look to it even though out of focus.
I have to say that the last 3 in each set look very similar and I find them hard to differentiate between. I do like pic 1 best but would be just as happy with all the others.
I haven't used the other 3 lenses at all. I find the Summilux near identical to the v4 summicron at f2 up.
I've done comparison polls here myself between v4, summilux and Ultron and unless I've got all three side by side I can't tell which is which even in my own pics at 2.8 up.
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If anybody likes versions 2, 3, or 4 more than #1 they need their monitor calibrating.

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Poll has reached 59 voters. I'll close the poll and reveal which is which when the poll reaches 100 voters.
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my two bits:

1 C-Biogon
2 Summarit
3 Summilux
4 Nokton

What's the prize for the guy who gets it right?
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Hmm how do you close a poll?
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