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Is it me but do we have a problem here?
Old 09-08-2005   #1
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Is it me but do we have a problem here?

Been sitting here reading various threads. Why is everyone so obsessed with buying new stuff? I've always found the surest way to make my photography worse is to have any kind of major upheaval in the gear I use. When I bought medium format gear it took me months to really get the best out of it and the same when I traded my eos kit for voigtlander. I've even heard a camera dealer say the reason why there are so many good condition leicas around is that people will not invest enough time to learn to use them -they go back to af slr's. Is it just me or am I going mad? Should we form cameraholics anonymous? ( "Hi I'm Toby and I've gone 3 days without buying some dubious piece of equipment that will disappear into my camera cupboard after a week")
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Cameraholics Anonymous.. cool.. I wanna be a charter member
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my problem is exclusively a cash flow one...
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Let me see... it's either what Joe said, or you have been lurking here all this time, and just couldn't resist any longer, just to tell us (as your first posting on RFF), that we have a problem.

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First post and you tell us we have a problem? Are you going to be like the anti-Leica guy on the Leica forum at photonet?
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Old 09-08-2005   #7
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Oh, it's just these people are out of control here, and they're trying to cover it up with goofy behavior.
Me? I'm the rock of Gibraltar. Ok, that's all for now. I'm a busy man. I gotta go somewhere.

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Up untill now we've been extremely cordial and civil. We haven't ever really drummed anyone off RFF (on purpose) before. Let's say we gang up on Toby! Who's with me?

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First post and you tell us we have a problem? Are you going to be like the anti-Leica guy on the Leica forum at photonet?
Could this be, *gasp*.. a troll?

Naw, not on RFF??
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Old 09-08-2005   #10
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Hey but seriously, you've got a good point. Don't be discouraged. We're (most of us) constantly trying to find the best equipment that we feel suits us so that we won't ever want to replace it. Only when we get there (if at all we do, mind you) the grass is greener on the other side. Human nature. If you are free from this, run like hell.

But to answer your original question (Is it just me or am I going mad?), you're going mad .
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howdy Toby

yes, it's true that we're rather involved in the technical aspect of photography.. perhaps that is why we stick to this niche site that caters to a very specific type of camera

but don't let our discussions fool you.. we're not really buying new stuff all the time.. we just pass it all around under the guise of buying and selling.. gotta give everyone a chance to get a look at everything

now.. joe, isn't it my turn to 'buy' one of your Canons?
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I'm not free from this I bought my last piece of kit three days ago!
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Heads up! FS: M2 on photonet $470

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Frank, are you becoming our new RFF deal scout?
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If it's a disease or a disorder that we have, at least it's harmless. It's not nearly as bad as trolling around on the web and picking arguments with people. Isn't there a special website just for that activity?

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Old 09-08-2005   #17
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Toby, you have a point. We have the cure. The 35mm classified section and medium classified is the perfect cure for you. Myself, I do as much as I can to help these poor guys and gals that let excess equipment get in the way of their photography. Most of them will deny being collectors. Not me.
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Toby: You have to understand that it's not just about being better photographers. It's also about looking in my camera case and seeing an example of the camera I had in 1968, and the one I had in 1969, and the one I had in 1970 and ....

And it's about fondling (maybe that's not a good word) a FED built in a factory started by the founder of the Soviet NKVD, or a Zorki built the year Joseph Stalin died.

It's about spending days learning how to replace the shutter curtains on a Zorki 1, or tell the difference between a Zorki 4a and 4b or 1971 Kiev 4A and the 1977 model.

It's about seeing if modern film makes a Graphic 35 a better picture taker than in was in 1958.

Heck, if it was just about improving my photo technique I would sell all 60 of my rangefinders, slrs, and tlrs, buy a Nikon F6 and only shoot Kodachrome slides.

"The process is sometimes more enjoyable than the result." -- quote by me but I'm sure someone else has said it, too.
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I still have THE cameras that I bought in 1969, and 1971, and 1975, and 1978, and 1979, and 1980...

And then I starting backfilling the ones that came out before I was 11.
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Quote:
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I'm not free from this I bought my last piece of kit three days ago!

well then man, give us some details!

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Toby, I absolutly needed the 35 so I mustn't constantly change between the 28 and 45 and it is perfectly clear that I needed a second G body so I mustn't constantly change between the 35 and 90.
Of cause I needed a TLA200 because it's the smallest zooming TTL flash and the BP-8 batterieholder to save on the expensive CR2 batteries and a TLA30 flash for the same purpose.
But that's too big to be carried everywhere and the Rollei 35TE has no rangefinder so a Contax T-VS is in order.
And everybody has a Zorki and the Kiev was just sitting in the showroom when I heard it saying "Volker, I'm lonely, release me from this showcase"

Everything perfectly normal! If I had more than six computers at home, then I'd be the first to admit that I have a problem.

Oh, wait, make that seven computers, I may win the 12" iBook on ebay :-)
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geez, the next thing I know, somebody is going to question why I need 8 fly fishing rods or 6 watches
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I guess we should only worry about the 7th watch.
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