Go Back   Rangefinderforum.com > 35mm Film Range Finders > Zeiss Ikon ZM

Zeiss Ikon ZM This is for the current production Leica M mount Zeiss Ikon camera and lenses.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes

ZM Lens delay
Old 05-28-2011   #1
print44
Registered User
 
print44 is offline
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Birmingham UK
Posts: 210
ZM Lens delay

I ordered a Biogon C 35 2.8 yesterday from an online retailer based here in the UK, but they emailed back later to say that they had no stock of any of the Zeiss ZM lenses as a result of the Japanese earthquake. Can anyone give any more information about the situation with Zeiss/Cosina production, and whether the 1-2 month delay I've been quoted is likely to be realistic.

James
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-28-2011   #2
robbeiflex
Registered User
 
robbeiflex's Avatar
 
robbeiflex is offline
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Luxembourg
Posts: 832
Even before the earthquake I once had to wait a whole month for a Voigtländer lens to arrive at a French retailer. I think part of it is the distribution chain to Europe for what is a very low volume item, and the rest is probably production and or logistics delays resulting from damaged factories and warehouses in Japan.

Cheers,
Rob

PS: The lens gets rave reviews everywhere, I'm sure you'll enjoy it when it does arrive!
__________________
"They say, ‘If you use this digital camera, you can take a clear picture in the dark’. The dark should stay dark. You can’t really see that much, and you don’t really want to see that much anyway.” Nobuyoshi Araki 2006

My Flickr
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-29-2011   #3
fuwen
Registered User
 
fuwen's Avatar
 
fuwen is offline
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Singapore
Age: 49
Posts: 368
Ya, still waiting for my ZM 25/2.8 ordered few months back .....
__________________
CONTAX Aria - Rolleiflex 3003, SL2000F - Rollei 35 RF / Voigtlander R4M - Rolleiflex SL66E - SONY Alpha 7r
Carl Zeiss C/Y T* - QBM HFT - M HFT, ZM T*

My website on Classical Music and Photography
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-30-2011   #4
tonyc
Registered User
 
tonyc is offline
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 73
Quote:
Originally Posted by print44 View Post
I ordered a Biogon C 35 2.8 yesterday from an online retailer based here in the UK, but they emailed back later to say that they had no stock of any of the Zeiss ZM lenses as a result of the Japanese earthquake. Can anyone give any more information about the situation with Zeiss/Cosina production, and whether the 1-2 month delay I've been quoted is likely to be realistic.

James
Hello

Have you tried Richard Caplin in London ?
They have quite lot of ZM lenses in stock in
their shop.

-tc
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-30-2011   #5
Uncle Bill
Registered User
 
Uncle Bill's Avatar
 
Uncle Bill is offline
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Oakville (somewhere west of Toronto) Ontario, Canada
Posts: 850
I had a chance to chat with the Zeiss Rep at a local camera show here recently. The main challenge is for Cosina (the makers of most things Zeiss and all things Voightlander) is one of their main vendors who provides the alloy for the lens barrels was located 500m from the nuclear reactor that well nearly melted down after the quake and tsunami. Stands to reason Cosina and other lens makers are furiously sourcing a new alloy supplier and making sure the metal is up to spec. It could take some time.
__________________
Leica M3 and M4-2, Rolleicord IV, Rolleiflex Series E 3.5 Planar version 1<a
http://flickr.com/photos/funwithcameras
http://funwithcameras.blogspot.com
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-30-2011   #6
print44
Registered User
 
print44 is offline
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Birmingham UK
Posts: 210
Hmm interesting. Richard Caplan has only the 35 f2 on his website. I think I'll come back to this one in about a month - leave the lens on back-order and see where we are at the end of June.
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-31-2011   #7
andrewteee
Registered User
 
andrewteee is offline
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 135
The Zeiss lenses were hard to come by even before the earthquake.
__________________
Obsessed with photography . Blog . Flickr . Zenfolio
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-31-2011   #8
print44
Registered User
 
print44 is offline
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Birmingham UK
Posts: 210
I've got to decide whether to pay for the order now - or cancel and order again when they arrive in stock - whenever that is. Wondering if when they do turn up the price will have risen significantly.
  Reply With Quote

Old 06-02-2011   #9
AndySig
Registered User
 
AndySig is offline
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 107
You could try Robert White in the UK. They must be the only people in Europe who've got the black version of the 85 mm Tele-Tessar in stock (I've just ordered one). The only catch is that there is no such thing as a discount with this firm i.e. you always pay top whack.
  Reply With Quote

Old 06-02-2011   #10
jsrockit
Moderator
 
jsrockit's Avatar
 
jsrockit is offline
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: NYC
Age: 40
Posts: 13,974
So, did the distasters in Japan affect Leica due to metal as well?
  Reply With Quote

Old 06-02-2011   #11
rover
Moderator
 
rover's Avatar
 
rover is offline
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Connecticut
Age: 48
Posts: 13,941
Leica and ZM lenses have been out of stock at most retailers I am aware of well before the earthquake in Japan. Surely that has not helped the situation with regard to the ZM lenses, but that is not the cause.
__________________
Dad with a Camera

Millennium M6TTL with Voigtlander 35/1.2 Nokton

rover's world at flickr
  Reply With Quote

Old 06-02-2011   #12
jsrockit
Moderator
 
jsrockit's Avatar
 
jsrockit is offline
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: NYC
Age: 40
Posts: 13,974
Quote:
Originally Posted by rover View Post
Leica and ZM lenses have been out of stock at most retailers I am aware of well before the earthquake in Japan. Surely that has not helped the situation with regard to the ZM lenses, but that is not the cause.
Anyone know the cause then? Seems it is effecting Voigtlander too. I find it hard to believe that all of these major camera companies are just not making lenses. I think there has to be some parts or something that aren't available.
  Reply With Quote

Old 06-02-2011   #13
andrewteee
Registered User
 
andrewteee is offline
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 135
It may be a combination of circumstances... the Leica M9 seems to be popular both with previous Leica owners and new ones who may not already own lenses. The mirrorless cameras may excite some owners to buy new m-mount lenses. Then the earthquake.

There may be a trickle but not enough to fill the coffers of the online retailers. For example, B&H may get a few now and then but only enough to sell at the retail store or to fill pre-orders.

But right now most m-mount lenses seem to be completely unavailable for long periods of time. It's as if they don't exist at all. I've had several lenses marked as "tell me when it's in stock" at B&H for many months now without a peep. Popflash and others, including a local Leica dealer, seem to be in the same boat. Unobtanium.
__________________
Obsessed with photography . Blog . Flickr . Zenfolio
  Reply With Quote

Old 06-02-2011   #14
JeffNYC
Registered User
 
JeffNYC's Avatar
 
JeffNYC is offline
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: New York City
Posts: 156
Quote:
Originally Posted by jsrockit View Post
So, did the distasters in Japan affect Leica due to metal as well?
That's what I think John.
There has to be a few integral parts that come from a manufacturer in the troubled area.
__________________
currently shooting:

Leica, Nikon, & Fuji


Flickr Gallery:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffcolen/
  Reply With Quote

Old 06-03-2011   #15
print44
Registered User
 
print44 is offline
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Birmingham UK
Posts: 210
I hunted a little further and eventually discovered a black 35 2.8 in stock with a different UK retailer. The lens was delivered this morning - just as I left for work (damn!) Black lenses are the most difficult to come by, but both Clifton cameras and Ace Cameras had stocks of the chrome lenses at both F2 as well as f2.8. I should buy one now if you're thinking you might...
  Reply With Quote

Old 12-31-2011   #16
russelljtdyer
Writer
 
russelljtdyer's Avatar
 
russelljtdyer is offline
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Milan, Italy
Posts: 227
What's the latest on Zeiss ZM lenses in the U.S.? I still see "out of stock" notices on the primary Zeiss retailers (Adorama, B&H, and PopFlash). They seem to have them in stock in the U.K. and Hong Kong, but the prices translates to about $300 extra for lenses like the Zeiss 50 f/1.5 ZM.

This topic is discussed in a few threads here, but I haven't seen any comments for months. Has Zeiss given up on trying to manufacture more lenses for sale in the U.S.? Does anyone here know when they'll pull themselves out of this production slump? Was the factory near the epicenter of the earthquake? I know this has been devastating to many companies in Japan and has effected the entire infrastructure of the country. I'm wondering if the Zeiss factory is back in full swing and will be shipping to the U.S. soon.

If there are no good answers to the above, well then, is there anyone here with a minimally used Zeiss 50 f/1.5 ZM lens that was purchased in the U.S. that they'd like to unload for what they paid for it or a little less even? If so, send me a private message please.
__________________


Russell can be seen occasionally petting his Zeiss Ikon camera and quietly calling it, 'my precious', much to the discomfort of those around him.



Russell's Photography Equipment (updated April 2014)
Zeiss Ikon camera
Leica M9 camera

Zeiss Biogon ZM f/2 35mm lens
Leica Summicron-M f2 50mm lens
Leica Elmarit-M f/2.8 90mm (E46 Germany) lens
  Reply With Quote

Old 12-31-2011   #17
EdwardKaraa
Registered User
 
EdwardKaraa's Avatar
 
EdwardKaraa is offline
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Bangkok
Age: 45
Posts: 594
I know for a fact that a large batch of ZM lenses has been produced and left the factory in mid December. You will soon see a lot of items back in stock.
__________________
M9 ZM 25/2.8 35/2 50/2 85/2
  Reply With Quote

Old 12-31-2011   #18
Lflex
Lflex
 
Lflex is offline
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 372
Cosina seems to be back up and running. I see Carl Zeiss ZM are getting back on the shelves of Tokyo's shops, so they'll probably be in the US soon.
  Reply With Quote

Old 12-31-2011   #19
russelljtdyer
Writer
 
russelljtdyer's Avatar
 
russelljtdyer is offline
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Milan, Italy
Posts: 227
Fantastic! This is good news indeed. Thanks, Edward and Lflex.

Now I just need to keep from spending the cash I have planned for this lens for a few months. That's going to be difficult.

-Russell
__________________


Russell can be seen occasionally petting his Zeiss Ikon camera and quietly calling it, 'my precious', much to the discomfort of those around him.



Russell's Photography Equipment (updated April 2014)
Zeiss Ikon camera
Leica M9 camera

Zeiss Biogon ZM f/2 35mm lens
Leica Summicron-M f2 50mm lens
Leica Elmarit-M f/2.8 90mm (E46 Germany) lens
  Reply With Quote

Got One!
Old 02-01-2012   #20
russelljtdyer
Writer
 
russelljtdyer's Avatar
 
russelljtdyer is offline
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Milan, Italy
Posts: 227
Got One!

One new Zeiss ZM 50mm lens came up for sale Sunday morning on B&H Photo. Someone bought it by the afternoon. It wasn't the model I want, so that's fine by me. It was the Sonnar f/1.5 and I've decided recently that I'd prefer the Plannar f/2 lens. It's rated a little better in some ways and it's cheaper and uses the same size filters as the Zeiss ZM f/2 35mm lens that I already own.

At one point this morning, I checked Pop-Flash, Adorama, and B&H's sites for the model and color I want and they both showed out-of-stock, but I left the window open on my web browser for B&H. About twenty minutes later I was on the phone talking to someone and absentmindedly refreshed the web page. Suddenly, after months of waiting, it showed one in stock. I pounced on it like a kitten on a ball of string.

I finally have one on the way to me. It arrives Friday, which is particularly good since I leave the U.S. and return to Milan on Monday.

-Russell
__________________


Russell can be seen occasionally petting his Zeiss Ikon camera and quietly calling it, 'my precious', much to the discomfort of those around him.



Russell's Photography Equipment (updated April 2014)
Zeiss Ikon camera
Leica M9 camera

Zeiss Biogon ZM f/2 35mm lens
Leica Summicron-M f2 50mm lens
Leica Elmarit-M f/2.8 90mm (E46 Germany) lens
  Reply With Quote

Old 02-01-2012   #21
djorourke
Registered User
 
djorourke's Avatar
 
djorourke is offline
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Halifax, NS, Canada
Posts: 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by russelljtdyer View Post

At one point this morning, I checked Pop-Flash, Adorama, and B&H's sites for the model and color I want and they both showed out-of-stock, but I left the window open on my web browser for B&H. About twenty minutes later I was on the phone talking to someone and absentmindedly refreshed the web page. Suddenly, after months of waiting, it showed one in stock. I pounced on it like a kitten on a ball of string.

I finally have one on the way to me. It arrives Friday, which is particularly good since I leave the U.S. and return to Milan on Monday.

-Russell
Ha! I bet that was an awesome feeling. Congrats!
  Reply With Quote

Old 02-01-2012   #22
j.scooter
Registered User
 
j.scooter's Avatar
 
j.scooter is offline
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Toronto-ish
Posts: 565
Quote:
Originally Posted by russelljtdyer View Post
One new Zeiss ZM 50mm lens came up for sale Sunday morning on B&H Photo. Someone bought it by the afternoon. It wasn't the model I want, so that's fine by me. It was the Sonnar f/1.5 and I've decided recently that I'd prefer the Plannar f/2 lens. It's rated a little better in some ways and it's cheaper and uses the same size filters as the Zeiss ZM f/2 35mm lens that I already own.

At one point this morning, I checked Pop-Flash, Adorama, and B&H's sites for the model and color I want and they both showed out-of-stock, but I left the window open on my web browser for B&H. About twenty minutes later I was on the phone talking to someone and absentmindedly refreshed the web page. Suddenly, after months of waiting, it showed one in stock. I pounced on it like a kitten on a ball of string.

I finally have one on the way to me. It arrives Friday, which is particularly good since I leave the U.S. and return to Milan on Monday.

-Russell

Congrats! It is a really nice lens.
  Reply With Quote

Old 02-01-2012   #23
noimmunity
registered niche user
 
noimmunity's Avatar
 
noimmunity is offline
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Lyon/Taipei
Age: 51
Posts: 2,849
Quote:
Originally Posted by russelljtdyer View Post

I finally have one on the way to me. It arrives Friday, which is particularly good since I leave the U.S. and return to Milan on Monday.

-Russell
Lucky you! Getting it in the States also saved you a bundle!
__________________
jon 小強

Fuji XP1 8/14/23/35/55-200 (x1.5)
Sigma DP Merrill 19/30/50 (x1.5)
ZI, R4A 24/50/90 + 21/35/85 and a 40.


搬到畫國後免疫系統變得超強,所過的生活宅到不行!

The old adage says: Seeing is believing. To me, that doesn't mean that the world seen is the truth, it means rather that seeing is a field in which the purity of heart is expressed--or not, depending upon whatever happens to cloud that purity at any given moment.

flickr
Flickr
  Reply With Quote

Old 03-03-2012   #24
jcrutcher
Registered User
 
jcrutcher's Avatar
 
jcrutcher is offline
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 2,331
Hello,

I just received my 50mm Sonnar 1.5. Is there a thread already started with photo's taken by this lens?

Thanks
Jim
__________________
Not sure what I'm doing here.....

http://www.rbcphotographs.com

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rootbeer2004/
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 16:56.


vBulletin skin developed by: eXtremepixels
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

All content on this site is Copyright Protected and owned by its respective owner. You may link to content on this site but you may not reproduce any of it in whole or part without written consent from its owner.