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05-20-2011
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the $10,000 dSLR
not from canon, not from nikon, not full framed. (1.5x)
Sigma SD1
When announced, I thought the SD1 would be a fantastic camera, I've been following foven technology since it was a proof-of-concept. I thought, however, it would be priced in the mid-range level, not in the "I could buy a car with that kind of cash" range... heck, I could buy an M9 system for that much.
I wonder what an DP compact would look like.. maybe a million dollars at this point XD
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What we're paying for exactly?
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Ouch! I had the SD14 and have been waiting for the SD1... but $9700?
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Yes, Right There
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Ouch. Why would anyone purchase that, when for the same (or less) cash you could buy into a mainstream system (pro body canikon). Hell, isn't the digital Pentax 645 only a couple grand more?
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I think it's really cool, but too expensive in a big way. Who do they expec their market to be?
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I'm also trying to work out what that cash buys whoever gets one.
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Wow, what is Sigma thinking... ? Am I missing something?
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1.5 crop factor yielding an effective 46 megapixels...
In spite of the price tag, that still sounds impressive.
That's a lot to squeeze out of a tiny chip, Foveon or no Foveon.
Hopefully the IQ reflects the hype.
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Sigma has been pitching these DSLR's with the foveon chip for years, and have never made any inroad into the market.
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05-20-2011
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The MP isn't true though is it, it's hype.
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I think they put so freaking much money into this new Foveon sensor that they couldn't make it any cheaper.
It's a real shame. That price is ludicrous. But I bet low-ISO images will be spectacular.
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05-20-2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by _larky
The MP isn't true though is it, it's hype.
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Megapixels are not the same as image resolution.
every digital camera's Megapixel count is different than the final resolution of a image file. |
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Actually, Sigma is 1.7 crop..
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Yikes. I'm sure the dynamic range and the look of the images coming from their sensor would be excellent, but 1.5 crop factor, the ability of only using Sigma mount (I do not like their glass, Sam I am) and more than the price of a new M9 and a used Canon 5D *combined* ?
If it were a third of that, it would have a chance. But this?!
G-zus.
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I'm not quite sure what Sigma is thinking here. I'm glad to see a Foveon sensor available in a higher resolution at last, because I really like the look of images from previous generations, but claiming 46MP is just ridiculous.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vobluda
Actually, Sigma is 1.7 crop..
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The new sensor isn't, it's 1.5x. (Not that the difference is all that big.)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DougK
I'm not quite sure what Sigma is thinking here. I'm glad to see a Foveon sensor available in a higher resolution at last, because I really like the look of images from previous generations, but claiming 46MP is just ridiculous.
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The number issue has always been a point of contention. One could say one roll of film has 36 frames, or 108 frames of color layers.
I'm sure an over-chatty guy at their marketing department pushed for the whole thing.
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I double checked it and it's not April 1st. So what the hell is this. Ridiculous price.
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If it was April 1st at least there would be an explanation for the price! 
So what will it do that a $2500.00 D700 won't ... and finally we have a camera with a price tag that makes the M9 look like a bargain!
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Hooked on philm
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Quote:
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So what will it do that a $2500.00 D700 won't
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IIRC, there are super secret features to justify the cost ... wash your car, perform invasive surgery, and it even feeds the poor.
Sshhh, don't tell anyone 
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I watched the development of this camera on the web, thought I might check it out. Well, I guess not, hehe... They claim its for the medium format pros. I'm not sure what their smoking. Sigma's glass is not up to to snuff, the sensor is to small, etc... They won't sell many to the rich or prosumer crowd who would likely buy a Leica. If this camera was a full frame Foveon M rangefinder, then MAYBE.... But a 1.5 crop sensor dslr??? They can't be that clueless. 3000 USD and I would have tried it....
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Interesting that in some blurb I read they claim it produces the highest quality digital image in any format ... how is that defined? Are they talking resolution, dynamic range?
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$10,000 seems much to high for a 1.5x crop factor sensor. I suspect that many will get sold until the price gets reasonable. If this was 2000, sure. 10 years too late for this price-point on a crop factor camera.
As far as image quality- I'm sure it's good, and it's color, and it's something a marketing team is going to say about their latest camera.
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10k, I think you can get that new Pentax medium format digital body for the same price.
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