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Do you - or did you, make notes? Show us a sample...
I was digging through some old boxes of "junk" (my wife's definition, not mine) the other day and came across an old notebook I used to keep track of my photo settings, subjects and locations. It brought back a lot of memories and reminded me of a few things I had forgotten. To date I've been pretty good about remembering when and where most of my old film shots were taken but the notebook helped to clarify some things I wasn't sure of.
Sadly, I haven't always been this diligent when it comes to making notes and I only have records from certain specific "periods" of my life. Still, something is better than nothing. If you kept any notes yourself it would be interesting to see samples...

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That's pretty impressive.
Before starting a roll, I always make it a point to keep notes, but ultimately laziness takes over the determination.   
I am hoping some day I will be able to break this cycle, but I don't think I will be making such detailed notes, hell I don't even remember the last time I used a pen and paper.  
Oh man, this thread is depressing....
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Keith, an interesting find, I'll bet. I used to use 4x6 file cards, one for each roll of film or related sequence of several rolls. It had subject data and technical data including developing and print-making. I numbered each roll and the number appeared on the file card, the negative sleeve, and on each print by frame number.
Back around year 2000 I changed my roll numbering system from sequential to date related yymmdd.
I usually make the notes after returning from a photo excursion; if I'm in truly unfamiliar places I may make some notes as I shoot.
After I got a computer in the mid-1980's, I transcribed all this info to a database, and I've kept it current on the computer ever since. My memory needs all the help it can get.

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Can not post right now (not that impressive anyhow) but I do make notes when starting a new roll. Depends how quickly I get through I would note the location. But more detailed notes I only do for 4x5. I use the small (~ A6 size) black Moleskine notebooks as they are well done and do not fall apart if carried in a back for a longer time (and I love the way the paper feels)
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When I started photography 35 years ago my father adviced me to take a notebook with me.
"You might note the settings for each picture" he said, "then you will progress quickly, comparing your notes and the results".
He was certainly right… I never took notes when I was photographing, and it's certainly the reason that 35 years later I'm always a bad photographer.
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Wow, I can't really imagine keeping such meticulous notes for 35mm. I think if I were shooting 120 or large format, I probably would though..
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I try to make some notes when I have time, on random pieces of paper, in small notebooks, on the phone (in writing or as audio), etc. Once I get home, I put the notes on my computer and store them with the files/scans and in Aperture. Very seldom do I actually use the notes for anything, but having some extra information available never hurts.
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I carry a Moleskine notebook to keep notes in, but I don't bother keeping exposure notes like that. I keep notes of what I photograph. Locations, subject matter, dates...stuff that's useful to know years from now when I am famous and my work is published. Exposure data isn't really useful or needed unless you're experimenting to test a new film or testing a camera you suspect is not working right.
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Not me, "life's too short to stuff a mushroom" as someone said ..
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I've tried doing that with film, but I'd forget a shot or miss something and mess all the following ones up.
With digital, the EXIF automatically records shot technicalities for you.
I do however have an 'ideas' moleskine that I write in, and record possible lighting setups etc. Not very well though...
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I don't take notes and only remember stuff vaguely. That's life.
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Improving daily--I think.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DanP
That's pretty impressive.
Before starting a roll, I always make it a point to keep notes, but ultimately laziness takes over the determination.   
I am hoping some day I will be able to break this cycle, but I don't think I will be making such detailed notes...
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Not all of my notes are that detailed; and for some periods I have none at all. The ones I've shown were from a "learning and experimenting" period so for two or three years they were very detailed but more on the technical side--like EXIF info. At other times I was more interested in recording time and place and perhaps some thoughts about my subjects. There were, however, also many gaps where I have nothing whatsoever for records and now, looking back, I wish I had been more diligent. Time and discipline are required and sometimes I lack both--as I'm sure do many others.
All I can say to all you "youngsters" on here is that if it's at all possible for you to keep some notes--however skeletal they may be--you will most likely treasure them in your later years. I know I do...
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It's fun to be able to search back to see when and how often I used certain gear, film, developer, etc... but I think the most useful in the long run is subject/date/location. Over the years, buildings go up and down, businesses change, streets/roads are widened or re-routed. The notes identify what might well be unrecognizable later on. Finally, it's all an aid to my own memory as to what I was doing at that time.
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I take notes when I am out shooting work for the paper. They need names and location information when were going to publish photos. I don't usually take notes otherwise.
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Wow are those detailed notes. Only on a long vacation type trip do I take a small pocket memo pad and write down where each roll was shot and if I change the ISO from the manufacturer's stated speed. Otherwise, on a 1 or 2 day photo outing, everything is jumbled together.
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Temporary upside down.
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I'm kind of an oral type so no notes only intentions.
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When I started taking photography seriously with my first SLR in 1996 I was quite strict with myself. I learnt on slide film after I quickly discovered labs could print out exposure errors. I used to have a small note book and note the aperture & shutter speed next to each frame plus any relevant info such as exp. Compensation for snow, beaches, dark subjects etc. It served me well and I quickly mastered exposure. Of course now I shoot RAW on my Nikon but I'm greatful of that discipline when shooting slides in the Leica. 99% of the time I can guess to within 1/2 stop of what it's meter says and adjust from there. It even proved useful when I 'argued' with the meter, which made me check the back of the M6 TTL, only to discover I'd not changed the ISO setting from 400 to 100. 
I write all my b&w info on the negative sleeve, iso, dev, ratio & time.
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Wow! Maps too, I'm impressed.
When I first got to taking photographs seriously, Using my father's 9x12 with its 127 adapter, I kept good notes. I did a lot of museum shooting under poor light conditions. I had too know what camera settings I had used that got good results. If I remember, I will look for my notebook tonight.
In the Army I often took notes in case a defense attourney decided to try and discredit me by asking for them (never happened), so I eventually quit doing so. After all, the only thing needed to authenticate a photo was that it depicted the scene as I had seen it.
Now I don't unless as others, I am experimenting for some reason. And I probably don't keep them long either although I know I should.
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Doug, you have a Leica S2?
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I do and I always did. Every film gets a number and is entered in my self-designed notebook.
This way every single frame is defined.
This sounds pedantic but in reality it simplifies life - when you find something in a photo and ask yourself "did I use a fliter?" or "why is this not really sharp?" or "this is slightly underexposed. What ec did I set?" and of course when you are experimenting for a specific effect: when you found it you probably want to know how to repeat it. Or someone asks for a print ... search the negative...
When in a hurry I do not fill in everything but at least date, camera and lens are recorded. When enough time is left all details can be recorded. Taking pictures always has priority.
When on a trip I simply take a single sheet of this as sketch and transfer it to the proper notebook when at home.
When traveling this notebook is also handy in case I want to write down additional information, e.g. what I had for lunch, the name of the nice young lady or the name of the village I just came through.
This is a sketch sheet from a three weeks vacation:

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Just the usual lens test stuff. Now that the scanners are sold and I'm going to a darkroom only, there are going to be a LOT of notes.

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Quote:
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Doug, you have a Leica S2?
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Well, I didn't at the time I made that image of my records; that was from my brief opportunity to use one at the Leica Roadshow event. But I did get one a few weeks ago.
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Quote:
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Well, I didn't at the time I made that image of my records; that was from my brief opportunity to use one at the Leica Roadshow event. But I did get one a few weeks ago.
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How about some pictures then? 
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