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what if i had new stuff?
sitting here thinking about gear, as in getting some new stuff...specifically the x100.
but WHAT gear is not the topic here today but rather any gear...that new lens...i really want to get my hands on the 50/1.1 but then i have a perfectly good 50/2.5...what difference would the new gear make in my shooting?...what impact would the 1.1. versus the 2.5 make on my images?
what would be different if had a neat new auto everything x100 instead of my rd1 and the 40 sonnar?
why do i (we) want new gear, different gear?
what would it change in our shooting (my) shooting habits?
would my flickr site look any different?
could anyone tell?
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How many times have you had new gear already?
I think we all know the answer.
Cheers,
Gary
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.......sometimes i thinks
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Probably not a great deal of difference in the final product i.e the imags....
However, interest and excitement in owning something new is part of what makes photography a hobby as well.
Just like those collecting cars for example, why have more than one when all of them does the job in bringing you ofrom A to B.
I don't know about you guys but i find it nice to buy myself something new or 'new to me' every now and then..........
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fresh eyes ... a momentary burst of new enthusiasm ... fear of the first scratch ... disappointment at the first feature that didn't live up expectations ... new challenges at how to make the new thing fit your style of seeing and shooting ... then wondering if you should have kept whatever you replaced.
ALL that stuff is mostly emotional and a little bit intellectual. As to whether or not any of this will have impact on your work... you know better than most of us that your skills and vision matter more than the gear itself. So, the question comes down to things like will the new lens little me shoot with less light or give more resolution AND does any of that actually matter. Other than that, the biggest factor is the money I spend make me feel energized to go out shoot more images AND how long will that last. Only time will answer that.
COULD ANYONE TELL THE DIFFERENCE? I'll bet lots of people think they could, but I'll be most of couldn't if put to a blind test. Yeah, all of us could tell that something was shot with a 1.1 or 1.2 wide open versus anything stopped way down. I question how much people who weren't with you in the same light when you made a shot could tell the difference in a print or on your Flickr page between a 1.1 Nokton and Noctilux, let alone between two difference lens both stopped way down.
If we look at magazines or websites or friends who do real scientific testing in controlled circumstances of different lens, most of us can see the differences. But, when you actually go out to shoot, how scientific and controlled is that environment?
Anyway, I think you'd enjoy an X100 as second camera, but have really big regrets if it were your only camera. I can't picture you living with one lens that you'd trade and swap with others. I had a Digilux 2. It was swell. But it wasn't the same as being able to try all that great M-mount/LTM to M adaptable glass that makes owning RD-1's and M's flexible and fun.
I'll be the X100 is great, but I think the hype over it is silly. Just IMHO.
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02-25-2011
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I'm thinking less about new stuff and more about right stuff because the right stuff will stop me wanting new stuff all the time!
It's the search for the holy grail and it never seems to quite end!
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And would you buy it from someone who asked you to add the Paypal and shipping fees to the advertised price? :-)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by photomoof
Joe -- photography is just FUN for you, and you like to occasionally have some new stuff, enjoy yourself without guilt?
Sometimes a new toy helps with motivation. I almost always build a new bike every couple of years, it gives me something to work on in the winter, and something exciting to ride in the spring. I lose some weight, get stronger, and enjoy the newness.
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I think Fred nailed it.
Photography is, and should be FUN. Especially for those of us who are not doing it to put food on our tables. For us it is only fun and trying new or different stuff, well, won't make one damn change in what is in our flickrs, but it will keep our interest peaked.
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fun?
I AM AN ARTIST ...
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And would you buy it from someone who asked you to add the Paypal and shipping fees to the advertised price? :-)
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as long as it stated fees and shipping included in price.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith
I'm thinking less about new stuff and more about right stuff because the right stuff will stop me wanting new stuff all the time!
It's the search for the holy grail and it never seems to quite end!
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holy grail...and i don't even go to church!
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Well, I am not.... but I did sleep in a Holiday Inn Express last night.....
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GROAN....
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Quote:
Originally Posted by back alley
fun?
I AM AN ARTIST ...
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Well, I am not.... but I did sleep in a Holiday Inn Express last night.....
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See, now we are all out of order. You were posting too quickly so i went and did a quick edit thinking I was going to make things look better.
I think we just ignore that and all sit in wonder at Joe's mind reading abilities.
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amazing! i just quoted rover BEFORE he said it...
it's deja vu all over again...y. berra
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I've even decided I don't really need the new Fuji after all ... I just need to get out and use what I already have a lot more! 
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I have about 150 new rolls of film to get out and try that I am excited about.
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Originally Posted by rover
I have about 150 new rolls of film to get out and try that I am excited about.
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maybe i should unwrap a new sd card?
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Like boots in the dryer..
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The Rollei sonnar is new to me for a month now. It's the perfect normal on the RD1 and M8 for me. Nothing other digital and rangefinder is interesting to me. Curious what you think the new fuji would give you that you don't have now??? AF? That to me might be the one thing I would want but not with a 23mm lens..... Not with this 40mm sonnar on the lens mount now.
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It is the same thing. Instead of being caught up in a new lens or camera I am obsessed with different films and ways to process them. Still the urge to do and have something new. For me it is just bought in a canister.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by f16sunshine
The Rollei sonnar is new to me for a month now. It's the perfect normal on the RD1 and M8 for me. Nothing other digital and rangefinder is interesting to me. Curious what you think the new fuji would give you that you don't have now??? AF? That to me might be the one thing I would want but not with a 23mm lens..... Not with this 40mm sonnar on the lens mount now.
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the af is an attractive feature for me...my focusing is slowing down a little lately.
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I'm going to get something new this year.
I've been selling off stuff to get it. What is really scary- where the hell did all that stuff come from and you just don't think that you've accummulated so much stuff over 40 years of collecting.
Photorama Show this weekend at Tyson's corner.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian Sweeney
I'm going to get something new this year.
I've been selling off stuff to get it. What is really scary- where the hell did all that stuff come from and you just don't think that you've accummulated so much stuff over 40 years of collecting.
Photorama Show this weekend at Tyson's corner.
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Are you going as a vendor?
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Quote:
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How many times have you had new gear already?
I think we all know the answer.
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and has anyone here not done business with joe at some point?
but we all know new (to you) stuff takes better photos.. go for it!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian Sweeney
I'm going to get something new this year.
I've been selling off stuff to get it. What is really scary- where the hell did all that stuff come from and you just don't think that you've accummulated so much stuff over 40 years of collecting.
Photorama Show this weekend at Tyson's corner.
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I'd have to suspect an M9? 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeFriday
and has anyone here not done business with joe at some point?
but we all know new (to you) stuff takes better photos.. go for it!
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lol!!
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