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Old 03-28-2011   #41
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Just want everyone to know that I got my rollei back from Precision Camera and it performs beautifully. He said he would just do a transport/shutter overhaul, but he also serviced both lenses, cleaned the focus screen and cleaned out some oxidized brass unden the leather that had started creating some bumps in the leather. told me he spent pretty much a whole day on it. there is no dust in the lenses, no haze or fungus or cleaning marks after doing a pen light test. needless to say it looks great and the price was good. that brings my Xenotar 3.5e2 purchase to $850 total, which is probably 2-400$ more than you'll pay anywhere online for 'a good user', but its mechanical performance won't be bested, and having full confidence shooting a 50 year old camera is next to priceless, and it looks nice to boot. no browning or lifting of the leather whatsoever.

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So that means that you got the overhaul for around 150 USD?

One working day, i. e. around 8 hours, from the workshop - that's less than 20 USD/man-hour.

Edit: ah, I just read that it's not the 700 USD-camera you refered to in your first posting. So, may I ask how much you paid for the overhaul?

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sure, overhaul was $250.
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This just arrived yesterday from Tony Rose:



It looks and feels in great shape, as is usual with Tony, and (so far as I can tell without having put a film through it) everything seems to be working. It didn't cost a bucket of money and came with a swag-full of accessories.

So far, it looks like a "good user Rollei" to me.

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Just as an aside, I just picked up my Rollei MX from Harry Fleenor after a shutter overhaul, and it's like a new camera! Smooth as silk, even in the areas he didn't work on ( or just didn't charge me for.) This guy is really impressive, even with the 12-week wait list.
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Thanks for the kind comments. I just happened back on this thread. I really like the dramatic last sentence of the OP, "You have all been warned!"
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Thanks for the kind comments. I just happened back on this thread. I really like the dramatic last sentence of the OP, "You have all been warned!"
well to be fair, there is a very high risk of haze/fog in cameras this old. it appears there may be some on yours, probably on the edge of one of the internal elements because i assume you were shooting wide open and the flare isn't terrible, but it is there. maybe i'm just making conjectures but there is flare in your image, and because it was shot at night, i can't really think of anything else other than haze. i'd double check with a light through the back of the lens with the shutter open to make sure, especially because you just got it serviced and its probably still within warranty

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well to be fair, there is a very high risk of haze/fog in cameras this old. it appears there may be some on yours, probably on the edge of one of the internal elements because i assume you were shooting wide open and the flare isn't terrible, but it is there. maybe i'm just making conjectures but there is flare in your image, and because it was shot at night, i can't really think of anything else other than haze. i'd double check with a light through the back of the lens with the shutter open to make sure, especially because you just got it serviced and its probably still within warranty
Thank you for your concern, there wasn't any haze even before the camera was serviced. Out of a lot of older lenses, the coated tessars on the Rolleiflex aren't that prone to haze. It's a result of the atmospheric conditions when I took the picture. Did you ever get a working camera?

EDIT: I should note, that there was a lot of steam on a cold night, it's visible in the distance; also there's going to be ghosting and internal reflection with most lenses 50 years old haze or no.
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Thank you for your concern, there wasn't any haze even before the camera was serviced. Out of a lot of older lenses, the coated tessars on the Rolleiflex aren't that prone to haze. It's a result of the atmospheric conditions when I took the picture. Did you ever get a working camera?

EDIT: I should note, that there was a lot of steam on a cold night, it's visible in the distance; also there's going to be ghosting and internal reflection with most lenses 50 years old haze or no.
steam makes sense, sorry about that. i just say because the first rollei i got had a xenar lens (tessar copy) that had an emelent completely covered in haze!
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Just want everyone to know that I got my rollei back from Bob Watkins at Precision Camera Works and it performs beautifully.
Good to know this. I'll be seeing him in the next couple of weeks to have him look at a camera or three. Bob worked for years at Canon so it's a tad surprising. I suspect his Rollei TLR parts inventory isn't at the level of Harry, Krikor, or Hanson (x2) but you never know. I do know he's done full shutter replacements for M bodies so anything is possible. I'll ask when I see him.
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, but its mechanical performance won't be bested, and having full confidence shooting a 50 year old camera is next to priceless, and it looks nice to boot.

This is VERY VERY true (very x2) and something many people don't seem to get. I've been buying and selling cameras of this vintage for the past 10 years or so and using them for a little bit longer and quality servicing is almost always a good move. Enjoy it! look forward to seeing your results.
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I didn't pay anything for my E3 as it was a present from a friend who inherited it. It was used but not abused. I noticed that inside the camera was a service sticker from Harry Fleanor, a good sign. So I sent it to him again for an overhaul and Maxwell screen. Its been back to Harry 2 more times over the past 10 years. He replaced the transport mechanism even though it worked, he said it would eventually malfunction. I was shooting a lot of film at the time, several hundred rolls over the past 10 years. If you get a good one, send it to Harry or someone good every 2 years or so. Get the screen. Exercise the shutter if you don't shoot enough film. My 2 cents.
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I didn't pay anything for my E3 as it was a present from a friend who inherited it. It was used but not abused. I noticed that inside the camera was a service sticker from Harry Fleanor, a good sign. So I sent it to him again for an overhaul and Maxwell screen. Its been back to Harry 2 more times over the past 10 years. He replaced the transport mechanism even though it worked, he said it would eventually malfunction. I was shooting a lot of film at the time, several hundred rolls over the past 10 years. If you get a good one, send it to Harry or someone good every 2 years or so. Get the screen. Exercise the shutter if you don't shoot enough film. My 2 cents.
An overhaul or CLA every 2 years? Or did I read that wrong?
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Good to know this. I'll be seeing him in the next couple of weeks to have him look at a camera or three. Bob worked for years at Canon so it's a tad surprising. I suspect his Rollei TLR parts inventory isn't at the level of Harry, Krikor, or Hanson (x2) but you never know. I do know he's done full shutter replacements for M bodies so anything is possible. I'll ask when I see him.
i saw the rollei parts bin and it wasn't huge, but he didn't replace anything for me, simply serviced them, which he is very good at doing. i watched him take it apart and troubleshoot it and the **** certainly is very familiar with the camera. great guy too. i'm sure if i had fleenor 'replace' the transport it would have cost 4-500$ and i just can't afford that for a camera like this.

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