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Old 01-17-2011   #26
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+1 on a TLR. I prefer a Rollei 3.5F over a 2.8 because of its lighter weight. My 3.5F has a reliable meter BTW that gives me good exposures. Go for the bigger negative; shoot the square over 6x4.5.

+1 on a Mamiya 6.

BTW I own both and often pair the two as a kit.

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I used both TLR cameras for some time, including today.
The 3.5F with color 100 film while the D with 400 B&W film.
It is a compact set of first class cameras.
People LOVE being photographed with such cameras.
At the very least, people do not seem to get alarmed or annoyed by them.
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Old 01-17-2011   #27
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Bronica RF645 w/65mm standard lens. Fast to use, compact, excellent control layout, sharp lens, great VF & metering.
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Old 01-18-2011   #28
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If you want a square and a great travel camera its the Mamiya 6. That's a no-brainer. I'm sure the GF670 is great, but you're stuck with one lens. The Mamiya has three, and the 50mm is an amazing wide angle lens. Plus the lens mount collapses which makes it even smaller. The Bronica RF645 is great too if you don't mind 6x4.5 neg and not having a tele lens (the 100 and 135 are too rare and expensive for all they are). But the RF645 to me is the ultimate travel camera. It's small, ergonomical, feels great in your hands, metering is great. It's amazing. If you want a bigger neg definitely go Mamiya 6 though.
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Old 01-18-2011   #29
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If you want a square and a great travel camera its the Mamiya 6. That's a no-brainer. I'm sure the GF670 is great, but you're stuck with one lens. The Mamiya has three, and the 50mm is an amazing wide angle lens. Plus the lens mount collapses which makes it even smaller. The Bronica RF645 is great too if you don't mind 6x4.5 neg and not having a tele lens (the 100 and 135 are too rare and expensive for all they are). But the RF645 to me is the ultimate travel camera. It's small, ergonomical, feels great in your hands, metering is great. It's amazing. If you want a bigger neg definitely go Mamiya 6 though.
+1 on the 50/4.0.

The only problem with shooting a Mamiya 6 is that is a very fast shooter so you have to allow for carring more/extra film.

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Old 01-19-2011   #30
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bronica rf645 kit and a 903swc for wides
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Old 01-21-2011   #31
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Hi,

I would recommend the Mamiya 6. I have had mine for many years and heve travelled all over Europe with this camera and 2 lenses. I typically take the 50 and the 150. Carry it in a Domke F3x Canvas bag and am good to go all day. I don't like to carry a lot of weight and find that it is about the same weight as my Leica M4-p and 3 lenses in a F3X bag. I love the larger Negs , use Provia F and project them. They really pop when compared to 35mm projections. I have also printed up to 48" x 48" and the prints awesome.

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Old 01-22-2011   #32
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A TLR is an acquired taste and definitely not for everyone. You need to have some self esteem to shoot such an old and funny looking thing. But as Raid said, people don't mind about them and using a TLR in a crowded place is fun and you will be noticed. I just love my Rolleis and Autocords and use them always when I feel like medium format.
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Well I have looked at various options and played with a few models in the shops. The Mamiya 7 is nice but more than I wanted to pay. I was and am tempted by a Mamiya 23 Ive seen and its a good good price, but she is too heavy for general use (I may get one later). The Fuji gs645s felt good in my hand and the weight is superb if my fibromyalgia flairs up I can still use it. At the end of the day this is important as I want to be able to use MF when I have extreme pain. I will order it latter today, now I have seen a nice little Agfa Ambi as well, I had one and so stupidly sold it
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Old 01-23-2011   #34
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Looking through this thread http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...ad.php?t=73622 might give you some food for thought as well.
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Old 01-23-2011   #35
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I use either a Rollei 2.8F or a Mamiya 6, both are excellent travel cameras, though the Rollei is best suited to a slower shooting style. The Mamiya 6 is as quick to use as a Leica, as long as you don't shoot a lot of frames and have to reload often.

Either offers quality no 35mm camera can compare with for less than the secondhand price of a single Leica lens, and are not meaningfully larger or more awkward to carry. To my mind they are a better travel camera unless you shoot fast and loose, or would like to use lots of different lenses.
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If you're a wide shooter, the Mamiya 7 w/43 would be my first choice. Otherwise the Mamiya 6 as it's more compact since lenses collapse into the body, but it's 6x6 vs 6x7.
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The Fuji gs645s felt good in my hand and the weight is superb
It's a nice camera..





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Old 01-23-2011   #38
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Another TLR lover here and I find them the perfect travel camera. A two Rollei kit, as Raid mentioned, works as well. I prefer the larger square negative and composing in the WLF almost 100% of the time though so YMMV

Rollei MXEVS in Cuba:
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Rollei 2.8D in Colombia:
http://www.flickr.com/search/?s=int&...+rollei&m=text
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Old 01-23-2011   #39
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You must decide what you find as best for you.
I have many times used a Rolleiflex 2.8D as my main travel camera, and I have never regretted doing so. It is a way to make the camera equipment basic in a trip, while still keeping it first class. The details in the negatives or transparencies are amazing in the MF format. The TLR also made me avoid the mess of having to change lenses. You would be able to take a small camera bag with the TLR, a small light meter, a cloth for lens cleaning, and then some 120 film.

To be honest, my current back-up camera for the 2.8D is a Leica M6 with 35mm lens on it.
+1 Consider a TLR. Get a decent Yash, Rollei - whatever... You can probably get decent Yashica sample then still have enough money left over for a Leica... as Raid says, "as a back up" to the TLR.
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Using the MF camera is a joy and a challenge. Yesterday, I was on a nature trail where a Blue Heron was resting on some branches of a tree in a pond. In the past, I would be hauling a heavy tripod with 2-3 SLR cameras and many lenses, including a 500mm lens for the birds. Uisng a TLR [with a normal lens], I had to compose very differently yesterday. This is another important factor to consider when deciding on what type of equipment to usein a trip. Wiith the TLR, I composed for the environment and not for the bird. The bird became a small subject, contributing to the overall image.
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The Fuji gs645s felt good in my hand and the weight is superb
Definitely look for the GA645i in that case before you buy the GS645S: the GA is a newer model, with a retracting lens that reduces the overall size considerably for travelling. It's light and portable with a great lens, and even has a built in flash.

More info here: http://www.antiquecameras.net/fuji645cameras.html
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Went through the same dilemma ...

I tried out the Mamiya 7 (80mm lens/ 65mm lens) , Fuji 645 (the automatic versions), Rolleiflex 2.8 (TLR), Fuji G690Bl (100mm lens), Fuji GW plus GSW series and the Bronica RF 645 (65mm lens).

I kept the RF645 as an all purpose camera including travel. It's small, light and compact. Beautifully designed controls really speed up the shooting process and the camera becomes a part of you very quickly. The rangefinder is brilliant and super easy to focus. The meter on mine is exceptionally accurate and consistent after you have run the basic film speed and development tests. The 65mm lens is very sharp. The negatives you get are far better than anything from the 35mm world including the Leica/Zeiss Rangefinders.

I did not like the focusing and noise on the automatic Fujis. The 6x9's were too big for travel though the GSW690 (I) is a great camera. The Mamiya 7 is wonderfully sharp but considerably larger than the Bronica. The controls on the Bronica are much better. And it is a LOT cheaper to boot. I recommend getting the 65mm and 45mm lenses along with one body to start out with. That combination just sold a few weeks ago on the aucSite for less than a 1000 dollars.

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Oddly enough no one has brought up the Mamiya M645.
I've traveled pretty easily with mine and single lens too.
It's not small, but it isn't big either and isn't that weighty either.
Lots of lens choices too.
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Thanks to all but a Fuji GS546s Should be here tomorrow, all round it was the best compromise. I shall if it is here early enough go out and spank a roll of Tri X or Acros to see how she works.
Filmtwit I have a Bronica ETR I find it too big with grip and too awkward with out, I have to wander light or Im in bed by noon.
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Thanks to all but a Fuji GS546s Should be here tomorrow, all round it was the best compromise.
Not that I'd wish a flare on anyone, but I'd love to know how it works out for you on a bad FM day (that's still good enough to do any photography at all) as I'm a fellow sufferer.
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Not that I'd wish a flare on anyone, but I'd love to know how it works out for you on a bad FM day (that's still good enough to do any photography at all) as I'm a fellow sufferer.
My sympathies for all with FM. My wife has it, and has since before they gave it a name. Back then, she was just told "It's all in your head," and "You'll never get any better." Sure made her day brighter.

Al1966 - I have a Mamiya Super Press 23 and love it. But there is weight to it. A wide strap helps, but weight is still there. Especially if you change to a 50mm or 250mm lens. The 65mm and 150mm aren't so bad, especially the 65. But if you can manage it, the photos are to cry for.

I mentioned folders before. I good one with a good lens might keep you out longer in the day. Weltas are nice, and I have a Zeiss 6x9 that although a little big (6x9 after all), is very light, and takes really good photos. Might be worth a try, if only for those times when you just really want to photograph, but can't afford weight.
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My sympathies for all with FM. My wife has it, and has since before they gave it a name. Back then, she was just told "It's all in your head," and "You'll never get any better." Sure made her day brighter.

Al1966 - I have a Mamiya Super Press 23 and love it. But there is weight to it. A wide strap helps, but weight is still there. Especially if you change to a 50mm or 250mm lens. The 65mm and 150mm aren't so bad, especially the 65. But if you can manage it, the photos are to cry for.

I mentioned folders before. I good one with a good lens might keep you out longer in the day. Weltas are nice, and I have a Zeiss 6x9 that although a little big (6x9 after all), is very light, and takes really good photos. Might be worth a try, if only for those times when you just really want to photograph, but can't afford weight.
When I get one it will probably be a tripod job with an assistant . Its just one of those things I have always fancied.
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Only other suggestion I can add to this is that a Rolleiflex can do some interesting close-up work with adapters.
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When I get one it will probably be a tripod job with an assistant . Its just one of those things I have always fancied.
If you ever do get one, you will love the photos it produces.
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Now I'm going to have to see one of the Bronicas in person and see what it feels like to hold.
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