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Old 01-17-2007   #41
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HERE is a link to an older thread with some exposure charts if someone's interested...

Fred's page seems to be the inspiration for most of us
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Old 01-18-2007   #42
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A pretty, young woman asks "Is that a pistol in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?" The RFF member says somewhat dejectedly "No, it's my exposure chart." End of story.
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Yes Ed ... in hindsight I wish I had mentioned it now and if you check you'll find I have added it to the original post as a ps ... but I don't really regard offering it to RFF'ers as making it public though! Plus his website, with a link, has been mentioned many times in various threads in the short period I have been a member here.

Someone directed me to his website a long time ago and I actually sent him a couple of emails but never received any replies. His site is very inspiring when you are just starting in photography... as I was then!
Keith, you don't need to explain yourself
Your motives are pure and simple. Those who chose to take issues with it, have issues themselves.

I can't believe reading your post today. It's just yesterday that I found Fred's website. Awesome website, btw!

I was kinda in a different situation yesterday because I was trying to calculate how to best use the 1/40s shutter speed of my Oly 35 Trip with the different apertures (yes, I know it's supposed to be used with a flash, but color me weird!).

Since Fred's table uses the EV numbers, it makes all sense in the world!
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... now if only I can get this zone-focusing technique in my brain...
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Keith, outstanding! Thanks for taking the time to put this together.... Already printed and laminated.
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Just in time. I am taking panoramas of Times Square tonight and I was trying to remember what I had learned 30 years ago about brightly lit night exposures. I wasn't doing too well. Thanks.
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I did times square at night using the chart. The contrast is extremely high. Signs were ok if I used "8: but the rest of the scene was black. I found detail if I lowered the contrast in the processing software although it was not pretty. My guess is that a 7 might be safer, although safest might be to bracket and combine in Photoshop.
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Quote:
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I've posted this in the past, so here it is again - another option for a pocket photo guide, The Harris Photoguide for Xisting Light. Robert Harris uses a wheel sytem to pack a lot of information into a small space.

www.harrisphotos.com/BetterPhot.html
If you rummage around used book stores or ask at older photo shops you can often find:

"Photographers Handbook: Life Library of Photography", a 64-page spiral bound notebook

and:

"Kodak Professional Photoguide" , a 5x7 spiral notebook running around 40 pages that came out in several editions over the years.

Both books are dirt-cheap now and have exposure charts and tons of other photo reference information.
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Might I recommend the tiny and accurate slide-rule Exposure Mat?
I've used it for a couple of weeks after stumbling upon it, and it works great. It seems smaller than the original tables posted on this thread, but to each his own.

http://expomat.tripod.com/
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Wow! That's nice!

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Yes, thanks, very neat.. pretty well perfect (even though no 1600iso).
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Interesting thread, i found it when i was about to ask if anyone had idea about exposing superia 1600, i was goin for 1/60 f5.6 for brightly lit indoors at night. There isn't a lot of differences, what i do is to know well how to expose an iso 400 or 100 and estimate other speeds +/- stops.

for example from 100 to 200 + 1 stop..etc.
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Agh! I read Fred Parker's site a little too fast and that was what confused me. I'm still confused on definitions of weak and hard shadows though and I couldn't find any information on this on his website.

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I'm slightly confused after reading the ultimate exposure chart. So each is it half/double each aperature for each stop? For example, the series of stops is 2,4,8,16,32 with intermediate values of 1.4,2.8,5.6,11,22 or is each step a stop? It seems like each step (1.4->2, 2->2.8, etc.) is a change of one stop, but I'm not sure. Could someone with a little bit more knowledge please clarify?

Also, could someone provide an explanation/example of a hard shadows vs. weak shadow? I'm assuming if the edges of the shadow are fuzzy, this is considered a weak shadow.

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Hi there ... did you follow the link provided in the first post to Fred Parker's site ... there's a lot of good info there.

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Agh! I read Fred Parker's site a little too fast and that was what confused me. I'm still confused on definitions of weak and hard shadows though and I couldn't find any information on this on his website.
Hard shadows have well-defined edges; weak shadows sort of fuzz out from light to dark.
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Thanks Keith
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Old 05-11-2007   #58
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Thanks for this Keith, i had been so busy with all the gadgets, menus, buttons and knobs on my previous cameras, that i'd quite forgotten the sunny 16 rule when it came to using my newly accquired CL without a cell.
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Might I recommend the tiny and accurate slide-rule Exposure Mat?
I've used it for a couple of weeks after stumbling upon it, and it works great. It seems smaller than the original tables posted on this thread, but to each his own.

http://expomat.tripod.com/
Tim, I discovered this little beauty a few weeks ago. I've already printed them out a few times. Gave one to a friend who is completely new to the "It's all manual!"-thing.

Not as extensive as the oultimate exposure meter charts, but easy enough to carry around and accurate enough for the amateur photographer like me.
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Before this thread progresses any further I need to remind everyone that I'm not attempting to take credit for Fred's charts ... I just wanted to share the useful format that I adapted them to. I know that none of you wonderful people have accused me of such ... you're too damned sensible to do that!

But ... I put the same post on P.net and guess what?

Hi Keith,

I knew there was a reason I did not visit P.net that often!

This beats my poor effort at a similar thing, will pm you for the files.

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I love this little thing, Ive been using it for a while now, well at least keepin it in my pocket, I started using it with my M3 when I bought it, since I had no meter, and no desire for one, I had got the M3 to almost force myself to enter into "non mentered" shooting...and this has worked very well for me. Even a shot in my gallery on here that I used it for, inside low lit airport haha.
Cant hurt anyone to just print a few out, throw in your bag or pocket, I keep one in my car too.
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Old 12-18-2007   #63
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thanks for the chart, comes in handy in my bag
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Very nice chart but most Sunny 16 philosophers peg open shade at EV 12 (+3.0) not EV 11 (+4.0). How do you judge open shade?
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nice, I've been using the expomat, it works well.
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Cheers Ron, although the chart doesn't look right, the ISO/EV table is wrong, no?
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PM coming your way Keith.
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Fantastic, printed it and put it in the bag
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Nice to see this thread on the main page again.

I've emailed a lot of files for these charts to people over the last year and it's been a pleasure to do so ... I also thank everyone sincerely for the kind comments I've received.

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I also came across Fred Parker's site around 2003. Since then, I generally don't use a light meter. My photos come out at least as well exposed, if not better, than when I used to use one.

Recently I haves started using the black cat chart:

http://www.blackcatphotoproducts.com/guide.html

Which I tend to prefer, because it it is more durable and easier to use. However, I usually write out a note card for typical situations before I go out for a shoot. For example, if I am going into the city to take pictures of my girlfriend there, I will write down around 8 settings for my point and shoot camera, knowing this this camera only closes down to f8. If it is sunny, I know I will want to set my camera at iso 100 and shoot at f8 at 1/500 or so; for a weak sun, I will write down f8 at 1/250, and so fourth.
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Has anyone considered doing an ipod application based on these charts? Currently there are DoF caluculators availabe, but an exposure chart would be fantastic. I think it would be very handy. Of course, I'm speaking for those of us that own ipods and use the applications feature.
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You've been looking for a reason to buy an iTouch!

I have not loaded the iTouch emulator on my Mini yet so I have not had a chance to test it yet, but it looked interesting. I purchased a copy just for 5hits and Giggles.

http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/M...287387348&mt=8

The application is called iKspozher. It's written by Venkatramanan Krishnamani. After I load the software I might write Fred about doing a better app based upon his info for him.

This works on both iTouch (iPod) as well as iPhones (both versions with an upgrade to version 2.X).

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Appriciate the link!

More like I've been looking for a reason to use my iTouch while I'm out taking photographs!

Thanks for the link, I totally missed iKspozher (strange name). I have several different homemade laminated versions floating around my bag, so it will be nice to have something that I can potentialy adjust on the fly. I'm looking forward to using it this weekend.
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Why hasn't anyone made an app for the iphone or adroid phones? This would be so f'ing sick to have in my pocket all the time.
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Here is another option, also based on Fred Parker's charts. It is an Excel spreadsheet that I put together to use on my Blackberry, I'm sure it's also usable on Windows Mobile devices with Excel. It can be used in one of two ways.

1: (P mode) On the first sheet (P), enter your ISO and EV, all possible aperture and shutter values will be shown below.

2: (A mode) On the second sheet (A), enter ISO, Aperture, and EV, and correct shutter speed will be displayed.

Admittedly much more awkward to use than the the sliderules, but I never knew those existed until reading this thread. On the other hand, your Blackberry will ALWAYS be with you.

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i love this little chart. saves me so much time. and for the most part its accurate as a meter
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i love this little chart. saves me so much time. and for the most part its accurate as a meter
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Amazing. A few weeks ago I created the exact same thing for carrying in pocket from Fred's site. I even laminated my card.

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