Old 05-09-2016   #41
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Why would you want to stop down to F11..and have diffraction as a primary factor?
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I received my BEOON on Friday and spent the weekend fiddling around with it and digitizing some of the negatives from my M4 and M6.

It's certainly faster than the V600 I was using prior. Quality is good - better details and sharpness than the flatbed as one might expect. Nice and sharp.

I'm using a 50mm/2.8 EL Nikkor enlarging lens at f5.6 or f8 - I don't see much of a difference between the two apertures. Corners look good. My digital camera is a Fuji X Pro 1, so with the 50 I can't get 1:1. I'm going to try the 35 Summicron at some point to see whether that with the cropped Fuji sensor will work to get to 1:1 magnification and workable corners.

I posted a few thoughts and photos of the setup/the resultant work on my blog:
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Out of curiosity, where did you find your BEOON? There are a few outrageously priced ones on ebay, beyond that i got nothing... Even Bellamy Hunt couldn't find me one
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Out of curiosity, where did you find your BEOON? There are a few outrageously priced ones on ebay, beyond that i got nothing... Even Bellamy Hunt couldn't find me one
I have seen similar slim pickings on eBay and resolved to snag the only sort of reasonably priced one to be found on the site last week.
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Why would you want to stop down to F11..and have diffraction as a primary factor?
I also tried f/5.6 and f/8.0, and found that diffraction is not an issue with the DR-Summicron used on the BEOON. Keep in mind this is with a full frame camera, both the Leica M9 and M-Monochrom. With an APC sensor, diffraction many well start at f/11.0.
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I have seen similar slim pickings on eBay and resolved to snag the only sort of reasonably priced one to be found on the site last week.
oh, you got that one for $260? Good for you.. i thought about it and then said, i'll ask JCH to find me one... bad call.

What was your high bid?
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That was me, yes. High bid was over 300 just to make sure I got it.
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Nice.. you'd have beaten me to it. A guy sold one on FredMiranda a few months back for under $200.. I replied right away but was #3 in line.
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Old 05-09-2016   #49
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Completed listings on eBay show there have been some BEOON sets going for less than $200 in recent months. I made an offer and got one for around $200 a few weeks ago. Be patient. And even if the ad doesn't give a Buy It Now option, it couldn't hurt to make an offer anyway. Some of those sets priced over $400 have been sitting there for a while.
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I got mine pretty cheap about a year ago..
About $160 from a vintage camera store on the west coast..
Just google it from time to time....you may be surprised what you find..
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I got mine pretty cheap about a year ago..
About $160 from a vintage camera store on the west coast..
Just google it from time to time....you may be surprised what you find..
Cool, what was the name of the store, Seawood?
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Cool, what was the name of the store, Seawood?
I forgot at the moment...it was in OR I believe..they sell a lot of vintage photo stuff there..an old time shop...
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Pacific Rim, Blue Moon are both good places to check with.

And if you're not familiar, check out Zeb Andrews on Flickr. He works at/runs Blue Moon and is a brilliant film photographer and a nice fellow to boot.
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Yup..it was Blue Moon!
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Old 05-12-2016   #55
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BEOON for sale now on ebay. Price is 150Euros. Item number 291761945646. No affiliation with the seller! It looks like the LTM to M adapter is missing, but otherwise appears complete.
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Would anyone here happen to have a facsimile of the BEOON manual?
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Would anyone here happen to have a facsimile of the BEOON manual?
See post 28 of this BEOON thread.

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...d.php?t=137654
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Would anyone here happen to have a facsimile of the BEOON manual?
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...OON_Manual.pdf
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We can both thank Godfrey.
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Yer welcome, don't mention it. :-)

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Removing the lens. "4. .......To remove the lens press button on catch of ring A."

I had such trouble with this last time. It isn't press or push down, it is push (or even tilt) clockwise.

Indeed it might be better "Push clockwise the button on ring A to depress the bayonet catch."
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BEOON for sale now on ebay. Price is 150Euros. Item number 291761945646. No affiliation with the seller! It looks like the LTM to M adapter is missing, but otherwise appears complete.
Thanks Peter, do you have a direct link? I can't seem to find the listing. Could be gone if it was Buy it Now...

I need to figure out how to get RFF to actual email up when a subscribed thread is updated. I get emailed on PMs, but never subscribed threads.

Anyhow.. thanks for looking out!
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Old 05-15-2016   #65
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It was gone pretty quick. I don't think the listing lasted 24 hours. Sorry you missed it!
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yeah, bummer... i didn't even get a notification from ebay as that's on my watch list.
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Ebay notifications are too unreliable, so I make a habit of checking my followed searches a few times a day if there's an item that I'm very interested in. Even though I'm not in the market for another BEOON, I keep looking just to see if a better deal than the one I got comes along.
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Got mine from UK dealer Peter Loy for 25 pounds with broken magnifier. has been enjoying using this as my main scanner the last year or more. i bought another one for a friend from FFordes and it was 75 pounds with full box manual everything. might be cheaper from dealers than from ebay.
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Novoflex CASTEL-COP-DIGI

I'm looking at this as a more modern alternative that can scan 35mm to medium format.

Anyone has experience with the Novoflex setup?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...f_rd_i=desktop
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Might try Igor:

http://igorcamera.com/leica_accessories.htm
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Everyone is going to be after these BEOONs now...hahaha!
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How do you mount an enlarger lens on the BEOON? Is there some M39 to M converter?
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Old 05-19-2016   #73
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Did yours come with an M adapter for mounting the camera to the stand? Mine didn't, but I already had one. For months now I have gained the conviction that I must have lost mine in a mad scramble for something or in a big cleanout. Only with this revived thread did I realise that it's been on the BEOON all these months. Maybe that's where your lost 50 adapter is too.
That's too funny. That happened to me as well.

To be honest I haven't used the Beoon too much since I got it in December last year (got a great deal on it). But I had some decent results. I used my M9 and 50mm Voigtlander, but for some reason the adapter frame kept getting into the FOV, so I basically just laid the negatives flat and cropped the photo.

In order to get sharp focus, I would place the beoon over a piece of paper with text on it. Focus precisely on the paper grain/text and the beoon was sharp enough for the negatives. This was much easier then trying to focus on the negatives directly.




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How do you mount an enlarger lens on the BEOON? Is there some M39 to M converter?
The extension tubes are M39 so the enlarger lens just screws in without an adapter unless the extension A is necessary which has an M bayonet; in which case use a common LTM to M adapter.
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I get the digitizing via copy stand idea - looks great
can someone explain why the BEOON is better than a plain only copy stand with a macro lens ?

if I understand correctly - you need a digital M to directly mate to the stand, and an M lens or M39 lens - beyond that you can use any lens or body with the appropriate adapter ( M to your camera) for body and either an M39 enlarging lens or M lens or your lens to M adapter....
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It's a lot smaller than generic copy stands and the camera is automatically coplanar to the negative, no need to spend time leveling after attaching the camera. Plus the usual precision Leitz machining for fine tuning focus, etc.

There are probably other high-quality copy stands that can accomplish the same thing.

Don't need a digital M. Any mirrorless will work with appropriate adapters.
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Why get a BEOON..?
#1 reason...it's cute..!
#2 reason...it works..!
For 4x5 and up..I use a Valoy-2 with camera attachment..works like a charm...
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I found a complete "boxed" BEOON at IGOR earlier this year for $195.00. I even got a bonus vintage Leitz 35/135 M-adapter.

Condition was mint.

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...In order to get sharp focus, I would place the beoon over a piece of paper with text on it. Focus precisely on the paper grain/text and the beoon was sharp enough for the negatives. This was much easier then trying to focus on the negatives directly...
I found that setting the lens at maximum aperture, in my case at f/2 with the DR-Summicron, made it easy to focus. I was having a problem initially only because I tried to focus at f/11, having misread the instructions — setting to f/11 is the recommended aperture for making the actual copy exposure.

Using paper with print for focusing conceivably could result in less sharpness if the paper is not the same thickness as the negative.
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I found that setting the lens at maximum aperture made, in my case at f/2 with the DR-Summicron, made it easy to focus. I was having a problem initially only because I tried to focus at f/11, having misread the instructions setting to f/11 is the recommended aperture for making the actual copy exposure.

Using paper with print for focusing coveivably could result in less sharpness if the paper is not the same thickness as the negative.
I thought so too, but in my case i couldn't get it any sharper. It was also much easier on the eyes. Having said that I haven't tried focusing at max aperture. I'll try that next time around. I think I only have 2 more exposures left on my next roll :-)
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