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Finally! A bold artist with a camera!
Old 01-31-2017   #1
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Finally! A bold artist with a camera!

It has been said that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. It has also been the accepted nature of artists to create art in their own manner of expression. Unfortunately, it seems that photographers sometimes are critical of others because they don't like the other person's images. Or choice of cameras. Or, the bokeh. Or the.... (Fill in the blank)

Here is an interesting photographer who is creating his own body of work in his own style. It is bold! It is.... really something! I applaud this particular artist's work and his attitude toward his art.

https://kchaeblog.wordpress.com/2017...asselblad-x1d/

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It reminds me of a friend of my sister's from decades ago. We noticed that all her clothes and home decorations were in super-colorful, almost fluorescent, colors. Then we noticed that her TV was adjusted to be super colorful. She put four shots of espresso in every cup of her coffee. And, to top it all off, all the channels on her stereo's graphic equalizer were set to the "+" sides of their adjustments.

We'd known her since grade school, so none of this was much of a surprise. She was what was called "hyper-active" in the day, called ADD now, and all stimulus in her mind was muted, all of it, visual, auditory, behavioral, everything. Stimulants like caffeine helped, and Ritalin helped until she graduated from high school, when her doctor said it wasn't needed anymore. Well, it was. She compensated by artificially boosting all sensory intensities to make the world more interesting. She boosted caffeine levels too, and other drugs too I later learned.

Seeing this artist's images just reminds me of my sister's friend....

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Unfortunately, it seems that photographers sometimes are critical of others because they don't like the other person's images.

Is that not a valid reason for critique? I certainly agree with you on camera choice/arbitrary style of the day, etc... but surely aesthetic preference (or major technical flaws like composition, focus, especially when not clearly part of a deliberate effort)...

I am not a fan of this work - the colors seem more, lurid, than bold - and often just speak to someone who doesn't know how to control the processes, rather than intention. But some of it is quite interesting, so thank you for sharing it.
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Personally I prefer this guy's work. Still quite colorful in many instances, but with more subtlety and interesting style and selection of subjects.

But beauty is in the eye.............. as they say.

http://christophejacrot.com/en/portf...sous-la-pluie/

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=c...w=1920&bih=874
I love this work! Thanks for the link.
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Personally I prefer this guy's work. Still quite colorful in many instances, but with more subtlety and interesting style and selection of subjects...
Wonderful images of a city I know well. Thank you for sharing, Peter.
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I love this work! Thanks for the link.
Yes, another style that one never sees and it is refreshing. The point of the OP is, it is refreshing to see photographers develop their own style and do not apologize for it. Your style may not be for me and I can assure you my style may not be for you.

I would love to see other artistic work like this! If you have some links, please post.
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It appears that I have not communicated very well. The OP was not whether I prefer the bold colors or someone else's work. That has nothing to do with this thread.

I am merely applauding someone who publicly offers his work for all to see without apology. It is about time that artists came out of the woodwork and into the day without fear of others putting him down. This thread is merely about encouragement for attitude and chosen direction.

It is very different and if for nothing else, I think that is wonderful.
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Hmmm, interesting links from you Dave and from Peter, different styles both valid.

Interesting also the discussion you open here.We had similar with my friends (and also with the no-friends!) and it happens oft when you speak about communication.

In my opinion each artist, each person is entitled to go out with its own style.
In the same way each "viewer" can express his own opinion (preferably in a polite way).

What I do not like is when someone who is very good in a kind of technique express a negative statement about works not using that technique. An example a friend of mine is very good in the fill-in flash technique and each time he sees portraits he ends saying that the work is not good (in reality he says something worse!) because the photographer didn't use fill-in flash, without realizing that maybe the photographer wanted to create a certain mood with the play of light and shadows.

Personally, but I'm not (yet? ) an artist but as photographer I like to listen carefully to opinions of other people but I wouldn't change the style of my work only for that.

Different styles are visible not only in the visual arts, like photography, painting or graphic but dare to say in each creative behavior. Writers could be an example, different books, different stories, different styles.

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"Personally, but I'm not (yet? ) an artist..."

Hi, Robert,
You are much too modest, my friend, your art adorns my desk in my Leica Room. Your search for expression and the different formats you choose are an inspiration for me. In my world, you are an artist!
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Here is another link of a local artist here, and I admire his work very much even though some would consider it not to their taste. But that is ok, it would be a boring life if everyone liked the same thing and there was no creativity based on individual expression.

http://billynewmanphotography.com/?page_id=37
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Ah - I apologize, I certainly seem to have misunderstood your first post. I agree - yes. I love seeing people develop their own vision and style. My only complaint about the first is that it seems unintentional, not an artistic decision.
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I managed to scroll couple of screens at the link OP has provided. At third one it was already boring. I don't find anything fascinating in applying too bold presets over and over again. But it might be commercially successful trend.
Peter M link is where artist is, IMO.
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Unfortunately, it seems that photographers sometimes are critical of others because they don't like the other person's images.
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I'm, not sure why, but his work reminds me, somehow, of the photos Ive seen on lomography. Nice work.


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Hilton Kramer is dead.
No idea what you mean... I am far too busy with therapy today to research it.
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Look around flickr for a while and you can find some photographers who're pretty amazing, but pretty much obscure. I'd have to look through who I watch to dig some out.

Thing is, a lot of people are more interested in taking photos, than they are of showing them off. So sometimes (often?) very good photographers do not collect and display their images in a way that makes them accessible.
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I like the photos in the OP links. They remind me that photography is not reality, but a respresentation or interpretation of reality.
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I liked the links by Peter M. But to me they become too much after a while, and lose their impact.

dave lackey's linked photos on the other hand, by K Chae, keep bringing me back to look at the colors, subject matter, and compositions. I think they are great. I also realize that nobody needs to agree with me, nor apologize if they don't agree. I will enjoy them no matter.
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Apologies for going into the gear side of things, but this jumped out at me,

this shot (from the first link)

https://kchaeblog.files.wordpress.co...1/b0000494.jpg

Shows some serious issues in the sky from the X1D, I'm very surprised to see that, even with the very heavy PP.

Edit: actually a lot of the skies look very noisy, giving me the following scenarios:

1. He's cranking the ISO way way up there
2. He's shooting Jpeg and the heavy post processing is bringing the artifacts to the fore
3. He's blowing out channels in post
4. The performance is surprising

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...... Here is an interesting photographer who is creating his own body of work in his own style. It is bold! It is.... really something! I applaud this particular artist's work and his attitude toward his art.

https://kchaeblog.wordpress.com/2017...asselblad-x1d/

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Dave,
I definitely love his attitude. Do what you need to do and the critics be damned. Bravo !

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Personally I prefer this guy's work. Still quite colorful in many instances, but with more subtlety and interesting style and selection of subjects.

But beauty is in the eye.............. as they say.

http://christophejacrot.com/en/portf...sous-la-pluie/

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=c...w=1920&bih=874
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This is the stuff that I dream about. I am in awe. I am envious.
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Sort of ironic that the photographer is shooting with a super high end Hasselblad and making them look like overprocessed iPhone photos.

Not a comment on their artistic value, I like a few of them, but certainly not really exploiting the potential of the camera.

On the other hand those Christophe Jacrot photos are fantastic. Thanks for the link.
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No idea what you mean... I am far too busy with therapy today to research it.
Hilton hated on a personal basis and his reviews in the NY Times were often very mean spirited.
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peterm1...thanks for sharing the Christophe Jacrot links!
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A photographer whose artistic style I like very much because of its peculiar vision is Keith Carter.
By the way he's a very kind person.
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