Go Back   Rangefinderforum.com > Non Rangefinder Cameras > Digital Fixed Lens Advanced Compacts > Leica Fixed Lens Compacts

Leica Fixed Lens Compacts For the many and varied fixed lens Leica digital compact cameras

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes

Old 05-10-2012   #26
Lss
Registered User
 
Lss is offline
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,204
Quote:
Originally Posted by noirist View Post
Whoops I jumped on that rumor too soon.... Leica Rumors is now predicting that "the new Leica X2 will probably have the same 28mm Elmarit lens as in the X1"
Don't worry, you can start a better rumour yourself. Or just wait a few more hours to see what they announce.
__________________
Lasse
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-10-2012   #27
jsrockit
Moderator
 
jsrockit's Avatar
 
jsrockit is online now
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: NYC
Age: 40
Posts: 13,975
Quote:
Originally Posted by noirist View Post
Whoops I jumped on that rumor too soon.... Leica Rumors is now predicting that "the new Leica X2 will probably have the same 28mm Elmarit lens as in the X1"
Wow, that's sad.
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-10-2012   #28
Matus
Registered User
 
Matus's Avatar
 
Matus is offline
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Frankfurt, DE
Posts: 1,792
So - the X2 is out - it is pretty much X1 with ability to take on a 1.4 Mpix EVF and 16 Mpix sensor. Lens is the same, body shows nearly no differences. Price will probably go up. Screen has the same 230k pixels.

Personally - I like that Leica kept the small form factor, but I would have liked to see more updates to the X1 (which IQ wise is great). I hoped that Leica will remove the AA filter from X2, but that does not seem to be the case.

Let's see about the performance ...
__________________
________
Matus
... Flickr galleries: New Zealand , Spain
... per camera: Olympus XA , Jupiter J3 , Rolleiflex T, Mamiya 6, Ricoh GRDIII shots
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-10-2012   #29
rbelyell
Registered User
 
rbelyell is offline
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,001
$2500...’nuff said.
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-10-2012   #30
Nigel Meaby
Registered User
 
Nigel Meaby's Avatar
 
Nigel Meaby is offline
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Bournemouth, England.
Age: 44
Posts: 804
X2 in action in Paris, video http://vimeo.com/41815760
__________________
My Flickr



In the sky, there is no distinction of east and west; people create distinctions out of their own minds and then believe them to be true.
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-10-2012   #31
The Meaness
Registered User
 
The Meaness's Avatar
 
The Meaness is offline
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: MD, USA
Age: 30
Posts: 245
It's hard for me to see where this fits in the market... used M8s sell for less... new X100/Xpro1s sell for less... X1s are going to go for less now... I may be missing something, but I can't figure out who would want an X2.

Then again, I guess it is possible the performance (resolution/iso/????) is going to be dramatically different than the X1?

Strange times..
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-10-2012   #32
gavinlg
Registered User
 
gavinlg's Avatar
 
gavinlg is online now
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Melbourne VIC
Posts: 4,751
No in-built vf, no care. Especially when a competitor camera has a superb OVF/EVF arrangement for under half the price.

imo.
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-10-2012   #33
jsrockit
Moderator
 
jsrockit's Avatar
 
jsrockit is online now
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: NYC
Age: 40
Posts: 13,975
Appears to support those who say Leica only cares about providing fashion accessories.
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-10-2012   #34
Archlich
Registered User
 
Archlich is offline
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 449
Quote:
Originally Posted by dave lackey View Post
Yes, let us wait and see about the performance. I love the compact form that fits in my pocket.

Does anyone know if the ISO performance is any different to compensate for the same 2.8 lens?
Refer to Pentax K-5, K-01, Nikon D7000, D5100, Sony NEX-5N, NEX-C3, a580 and numerous other cameras for reference on sensor performance.

Finally Leica's putting the red dot on this two-year-old Sony 16MP sensor, which will see replacement this summer.

Truly good sensor it is, though.


-

The other problem is probably the AF on the X series. Won't know until it's been widely available to users...
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-10-2012   #35
tic
Registered User
 
tic's Avatar
 
tic is offline
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Posts: 143
They needed to update the optics too. F=2.0 or 1.4. I'd still rather have an x100 or x-pro 1... Sad thing...
__________________
Leica IIIf + Summitar 50/2; Leica M2 + CV 15/4.5, ZM 35/2, Summicron 50/2, Elmarit 90/2.8
FED 5B + Orion-15 28/6, Jupiter-12 35/2.8, Industar-61 55/2.8, Jupiter-11 135/4
Contax IIIa + CV 21/4, Biogon 35/2.8, Sonnar 50/1.5, Jupiter-9 85/2, Jupiter-11 135/4
Super Ikonta IV (6x6); Rollei XF35; Canonet QL17 G-III

RFF Gallery, flickr
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-10-2012   #36
willie_901
Registered User
 
willie_901's Avatar
 
willie_901 is offline
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,748
Yes, it is a mystery.
__________________
"Perspective is governed by where you stand object size and the angle of view included in the picture is determined by focal length." H.S. Newcombe

Self-Induced Transparency Photography, FLICKR, Professional Portfolio.
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-10-2012   #37
gilpen123
Gil
 
gilpen123's Avatar
 
gilpen123 is offline
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Manila, Philippines
Posts: 2,275
I expected the X2 to have at least a 2.0 lens and a built-in EVF/OVF. Sometimes, it's difficult to understand what Leica is doing, yes it's a mystery. If the EVF is similar to what Panasonic has, it's surely not up to par with what the market may want. Olympus and Fuji has already shown that they can do it and very good at that.
__________________
Gil

"Imagination is more important than knowledge"
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-10-2012   #38
maddoc
... likes film.
 
maddoc's Avatar
 
maddoc is offline
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: 調布市
Age: 48
Posts: 6,565
When is the Leica X2-M(onochrome) due ? Photokina ? ...
__________________
- Gabor

flickr
pBase
blog
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-10-2012   #39
noimmunity
registered niche user
 
noimmunity's Avatar
 
noimmunity is offline
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Lyon/Taipei
Age: 51
Posts: 2,852
Too bad it didn't come sporting the equivalent 35/1.4 that was rumored...

I think it will appeal to a market segment that wants an automated Leica, demands high IQ, and has disposable income.

This is not a camera for enthusiasts.
__________________
jon 小強

Fuji XP1 8/14/23/35/55-200 (x1.5)
Sigma DP Merrill 19/30/50 (x1.5)
ZI, R4A 24/50/90 + 21/35/85 and a 40.


搬到畫國後免疫系統變得超強,所過的生活宅到不行!

The old adage says: Seeing is believing. To me, that doesn't mean that the world seen is the truth, it means rather that seeing is a field in which the purity of heart is expressed--or not, depending upon whatever happens to cloud that purity at any given moment.

flickr
Flickr
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-10-2012   #40
Sunti
Registered User
 
Sunti is offline
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: San Francisco bay area
Posts: 158
Quote:
Originally Posted by jsrockit View Post
Appears to support those who say Leica only cares about providing fashion accessories.
+1

I love my film Leica and my old Cron, but the X2 is a camera with a spec from 3 years ago with a price of the dollar in 2050.
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-10-2012   #41
JayM
Registered User
 
JayM is offline
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Tucson, AZ
Age: 30
Posts: 301
Viewfinder looks dumb and inelegant, as does the hot shoe. Original X1 style was much better, which you could place a CV finder in and it would look better.

Luckily it still says Leica.

For the fashion conscious
__________________
Show me your film leaders and I will tell you what you are.
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-11-2012   #42
robert blu
quiet photographer
 
robert blu's Avatar
 
robert blu is offline
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Italy
Age: 65
Posts: 2,747
I'm satisfied to know that there is no major reason to upgrade from my x1 which I still love a lot...
robert
PS: the only advantage I see is due to the higher megapixel counts which would allow more cropping possibility, interesting when you do not have a 50mm .
__________________
Remember: today is the Day !
from Ruth Bernhard recipe for a long and happy life


my quiet photographer's blog


My RFF photos and my albums on RFF
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-11-2012   #43
jsrockit
Moderator
 
jsrockit's Avatar
 
jsrockit is online now
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: NYC
Age: 40
Posts: 13,975
Quote:
Originally Posted by robert blu View Post
I'm satisfied to know that there is no major reason to upgrade from my x1 which I still love a lot... allow more cropping possibility, interesting when you do not have a 50mm .
Faster AF?
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 07:21.


vBulletin skin developed by: eXtremepixels
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

All content on this site is Copyright Protected and owned by its respective owner. You may link to content on this site but you may not reproduce any of it in whole or part without written consent from its owner.