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Old 12-21-2010   #1
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disapointment/overated kit

In your photographic journey, what lens/camera/kit has disapointed you the mots, not lived up to its billing. Two stand out to me, camera wise, I have owned at different times, two Olympus SP and have been very disapointed with them and prefered and still do the 35RC.

Lens wise, well over the last 30 years the lens that stands out as the biggest disapointment would be a lens thats often described as 'rare' on a certain auction site. That lens is the Pentax SMC M 40mm F2.8 pancake, very soft at 2.8 and very fiddley to use. How about you, what has let you down or disapointed you
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Old 12-21-2010   #2
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Mamiya 645, and Mamiya c330, Mamiya RB67. Could never get into medium format. It just seemed a clunky compromise between my prefered 35mm Nikon/Leica and 4x5 Sinar.

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Thats reminds me, this post/thread is not meant to start a flame war or insite trolls, no rather I find it interesting to hear what people use , have used and find either good or more interestingly, disapointing
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Old 12-21-2010   #4
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CV 35 2.5 pancake. The optics are fine, but the lens was just too small for my large hands.
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Kiev ll ... I've still got the camera and there's absolutely nothing wrong with it, it does everything it was designed to do. Shutter speed adjustment is a pain IMO and the viewfinder is a joke and if you grip the camera incorrectly you cover the rangefinder window with your middle finger ... the list of things that annoys me about this camera is significant and I probably should sell it.

The other camera that disappointed me after reading about how great they were is the Yashica Electro. Too big for what it is and the ergonomics are awful IMO.
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Old 12-21-2010   #6
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That was my problem with the SP, too large, not compact a all
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Old 12-21-2010   #7
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All of my expensive pro and prosumer Canon DSLRs. Worth-less and less and less and less. I have hope for the digital future. I'm hoping to get one that I'm happy with and don't feel the need to update/change bodies/systems.
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contax IIa

Have a non functioning Contax IIa, but despise the ergonomics. Really don't like the knob film wind, which colours my disinterest in screw mount leicas. The focusing wheel is just silly!! Loading film by removing the back is annoying, but tolerate the same on my Nikon F.

I have much higher praise for the 21 biogon that came with the camera
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few Canon A1/AE1 bodies I bought, thinking of having Nikon FM/FE system cheaper (knew nothing about cameras back then).
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Old 12-21-2010   #10
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Summilux 35mm pre-asph. I love the way it renders images, its compact size and sharpness when stopped down even at 2.0. What made me sell it though is that is flares a LOT under the conditions I usually shoot. I can stand a little flare now and then, but in this case it totally ruined quite a few pictures. (and I still haven't developed a few rolls taken with it, I expect yet more disappointment )
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Olympus OM-1 - could never stand the ergos even the 2nd or 3rd time I tried it. The speeds on the lens just made my head hurt.
Canon Canonet G-III 17 - another ergonomics issue, just too small in an awkward kind of way.
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Old 12-21-2010   #12
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Almost every Russian camera and lens that I've tried.
FED-1: this one was actually nicely adjusted, but it had a non-standard lens register that allowed only its 50mm f/3.5 lens to work with it. I know this can be a problem with the early cameras, but it was a big disappointment, especially when I have a nice collapsible Summicron I wanted to put on it.

FED-2: the top shutter speed tapered. It took me a month to adjust it properly, with many rolls of film. When I finally sold it to FEDKA, he wondered why I was trading in such a nicely adjusted camera. I did tell him the source of my frustration.

35mm Jupiter 12 - significant pincushion distortion was a let down.

Industar-50 - the infinity lock scratches up the lens mount surround on a FED-2

Russian 135mm f/4 - this one was actually quite sharp, but the machining tolerances were such that infinity could not line up. Before you laugh, I have a LTM 135mm Elmar f/4 that's with DAG now, as the minimum focus is incorrect.

Jupiter 9 85mm f/2. I don't want to be all negative. This all aluminum lens, once shimmed by Jerry Sorkin (via Fedka) is smoking! It focuses properly wide open and close up. The only problem for me is that the shiny barrel reflects the sun right into the RF of my Leica IIIG when I'm using it outside. Also, f/32 seems to be off, but up to f/22 the aperture is accurate. This is the only one of the Russian experiment phase that I've kept.
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For the Russian 135mm f/4 (can't remember the Jupiter number), the RF did not line up at infinity. I wanted to clarify what I meant by "not line up".
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Old 12-21-2010   #15
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Nikon FM2n. A great camera, no doubt about it but it just doesn't feel like it's been forged from a steel bar like the F's and F2's.

Leica MP. Overhyped, overpriced. I much preferred the M6.

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Old 12-21-2010   #16
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The higher end canon dslrs (and nikons for that matter too) I simply cannot use anymore. I went from film slr's to digital and still have my t90 (which is rarely ever used), and I cannot take pictures I'm happy with with the digital, the same is true with point and shoots. I've seen people get amazing shots with both, and I used to be able to get good shots with my dslr, but now they just feel weird in my hand. It's more of a personal thing, as the canon optics are spectacular, but my main issue with them even before I got rangefinders was the size and I always felt awkward lugging around the thing with my 'small' 17-50/2.8 zoom.

I have been toying with the idea of getting a 7d though, but I keep shooting it down simply because I already have a crop sensor digital that I never use (despite it's ability to take perfectly fine images) and if I'm going to shoot video I crack out the Red
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another vote for contax IIA It has sentimental value because it was my grandfathers, and I love the f/1.5 sonnar just wish it was attached to an m3.

also my speed graphic-- (never drink and ebay at the same time) I never seem to be able to motivate myself to lug it out in the field, and knowing that each trip of the shutter is $6 or so doesn't inspire creativity. However freestyle has some bw sheetfilm for about 50 cents a sheet which is a little less intimidating.
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My alternative to expensive sheet film in my Speed Graphic:

Cut some Freestyle Arista-brand grade 2 RC paper into negative-sized sheets, load into film holders, preflash under enlarger for 1-2 seconds at smallest aperture, then shoot in-camera with the paper rated at ISO12. Develop in liquid paper developer diluted 1:15 at 68f. Process, rinse, dry, scan and invert tones in PP. Or contact print to fiber paper. Have fun.

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Sold a Summilux 50/1.4 because I could not get over the flimsy build quality of the lens.

At the time, my other lenses were Konica's, and they made the 'Lux feel like cheap Japanese
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Leica CM 40 Summarit, the lens is great, but the viewfinder.....good to practice blind shooting though..lol
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another vote for contax IIA It has sentimental value because it was my grandfathers, and I love the f/1.5 sonnar just wish it was attached to an m3.

also my speed graphic-- (never drink and ebay at the same time) I never seem to be able to motivate myself to lug it out in the field, and knowing that each trip of the shutter is $6 or so doesn't inspire creativity. However freestyle has some bw sheetfilm for about 50 cents a sheet which is a little less intimidating.

As an aside can I suggest Era 100 for the Graphic ... you'll find it on eBay from seller issac.chen ... it's the same or less than the cheapie Freestyle stuff ($12.00 for twenty five sheets) and it performs like Ilford FP4 ... you also don't have to pay Freestyle's shipping and handling charges which can kill small film orders.
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Several FSU cameras, though they opened up a new world of Nikon Range Finders to me so I have a hard time feeling as frustrated as I was when it first hit.

My Mamyia 645 was frustrating as I thought it had an electrical problem, went to trade it in, new battery and it worked fine.

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The biggest disappointment when using equipment has always been my user error, but in terms of having a camera not live up to it's specifications is the Canon 1D mark III. Absolute dog of a camera. Canon replace my set 5 times, which was great service to their credibility.
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All of my expensive pro and prosumer Canon DSLRs.
Same here! I have almost 40 film cameras and none off them disappoint me like my Canon digital kit did. However, it was a learning experience and it brought me to film...
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As an aside can I suggest Era 100 for the Graphic ... you'll find it on eBay from seller issac.chen ...
I'm still shooting that film Keith, shot 6 sheets yesterday and eight loaded for today.
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Olympus cameras. Fantastic lenses, the mechanics of the bodies did not live up to expectations. OM series, third time is the charm. Prior two are for parts. Busted shutter strap on an OM-1md, bad electronics on an OM-2P. Olympus SP: hair-thin spring for the film advance clutch. It broke, I replaced with a stronger one. Olympus RC, shutter-speed dial easily comes undone. Olympus EC- bad electronics, low-light lamp shorted out and drained batteries. Several more fixed-lens Olympus RF's with electronic shutters- shorts.
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Canon 7: a brick of a camera. We never bonded. It's got its plusses, to be sure, but learned from owning it that I place a high value on compactness...
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Leica Minilux - viewfinder so small it was a pain to use. The autofocus often was not spot-on, too.
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As an aside can I suggest Era 100 for the Graphic ... you'll find it on eBay from seller issac.chen ... it's the same or less than the cheapie Freestyle stuff ($12.00 for twenty five sheets) and it performs like Ilford FP4 ... you also don't have to pay Freestyle's shipping and handling charges which can kill small film orders.
... Thanks for that information !!
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Zeiss 50mm/1.4 ZF was a humongous disappointment. Zeiss would have been better off calling it f/2.0.
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Hasselblad 500 c/m. Ok, but did not live up to the hype (for me, anyway).
Minolta Autocord. Nice at f8, but ridiculously soft at 5.6 or below.
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Canon P, the vertical alignment of rf was constantly going off...

Yashica electro, terrible ergonomics...

Contax G series, fiddly stupid autofocus system, would be the best system ever if they were all traditional manual...I missed a roll of beautiful shots in my trip to mexico. focus was off in every shot...never forgive it!
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Olympus OM system. Loved the whole idea of it, compact, light. I went shooting with a friend who had a Contax system and when we compared slides side by side on the lightbox, I was so blown away by the Contax lenses, the color saturation, sharpness, I went out the next day and bought an Aria and a few lenses.

I have also had Zuiko lenses fall apart on me. Especially the 135/3.5 and the 28/3.5. The 50 macro was amazing though... Zuikos had the cheapest rubber focusing rings.
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Alpa 35mm cameras -- ergonomically weird (at least to me), mechanically not the greatest, and really not that impressive. Much prefer Exakta!
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Hasselblad 503CX with 80/2.8 - nice enough kit, but painfully slow to focus and use. How on earth do people use these for shooting on the street? Hasselblad should be spelled "Hassle" blad
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Canon (L) glass. Yes its good, but rediculously over priced and over hyped in my opinion. Not to mention huge, heavy and white. I know not all of it is white but too much of it is.
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Leica M3.

Not really trying, but got one cheap, had it CLA'd, and found it to be just... meh.
Very ordinary compared to what I read about it, nothing exceptional. Sold it, I'll keep my M4-P, thanks.
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Olympus XA. The camera was talked up all over the place but I just don't get images I love out of it.

By contrast, I instantly fell in love with the Olympus 35DCs lens... and then tracked down a 35RD and paid to have it serviced. I don't like the aperture ring at all but other than that I love the camera. I also picked up a cheap XA4 which I seem to like as much as others like their XAs.

The FED 2 is a perfectly nice camera but every time I use it, I find myself wishing I was using a Leica IIIc instead. It just fits my hands better though the FED 2 is in better condition and is a bit more reliable. Once I have another working screw mount body, I'll probably sell the FED 2.
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