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If it were ltm I'd definitely be interested.
On the home page for the manufacturer, they have a short list of other lenses, I clicked on the link to a 25mm f1.8 and that opened the page for this 50.
Is the 50 the only lens they've got in production?

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But the aperture diagram shows 7.
I'd say there's 12 blades in there. In which case, element (as in 7 elements in 6 groups in the optical formula) was translated as "blade", meaning the reliability of the rest of the translation is also questionable lol.

Is the mount copper, aluminum, brass, or something else?! I guess we'll find out soon enough

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Looking closely at the aperture ring in the photographs, there's no f11 marking at all and despite the obvious issue with perspective in the photographs, it's clear that all of the aperture settings between f5.6 and f16 are very close together. Not a problem with TTL metering but not really a lens to use at small apertures with slide film and a fully manual camera! Of course, the intention will be to use the lens at wider apertures but this looks like a "feature" that highlights the low cost of the lens. I'd still like to try one though!
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Yeah no point in stopping down with *this* lens anyways.
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Their auction site ads have replaced the funny stack-of-saucers diagram with an artist's representation of a diaphragm -- with seven blades! It appears that this company makes glass for technical and scientific applications. It may take them a while for everyone to get on the same page in marketing consumer lenses. By the way, their 25mm lens for Fuji X goes for under $100 USD! That's mighty inexpensive, even with so-so quality.
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Is anyone here going to order one and test it for us all?
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I think we're waiting for you to take up that burden Raid
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you guys are a tough crowd.
I see nothing that wrong with sharpness on those small sample shots... One or two of the portrait closeups of the dude are obviously motion blurred; some background highlights are very busy/weird to deliver "nice bokeh" (like the 1st one with the blue striped screens blurred);
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the cat shot has great sharpness and beautiful bokeh :P
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I believe by copper they wanted to say brass.
In Hungarian, e.g., we call brass "yellowcopper".
It's just crappy translation, same as with the seven blades etc.
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The bokeh is.... interesting. Almost looks like it oozes. I may splurge. adapt it to my Fuji kit for funnies.
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I believe by copper they wanted to say brass.
In Hungarian, e.g., we call brass "yellowcopper".
It's just crappy translation, same as with the seven blades etc.
Indeed, it's the same for mandarin: brass is "yellowcopper", bronze is "bluecopper", and pure copper is called "redcopper". When referring to all three (especially brass and copper) people tend to generalize them as "copper" - so generalized that some never recognize brass is just an alloy.

It's common among Chinese photo hobbyists to describe a lens having "a copper mount" or a camera having a "copper top plate", having an image of the yellow metallic finish in mind.
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That's a tasty lens and with the extra mayo applied judiciously on the front element you can achieve a cool soft-focus effect.
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All in all it looks like a nice lens for a really good price.

We await with bated breath on a realistic pros and cons real world review on this hunk of Chinese glass.
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i need a chrome one in my life :-)
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i need a chrome one in my life :-)
Me too.
I think I will take the plunge next week and see how it stacks up against my Noctilux.
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It's styled nicely.
The silver one sort of reminds me of the Konica M Hexanon limited f1.2/50mm.
I'll try one once the first round of $250 second hand copies hit the classified boards.
Could be fun.
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The protrusion of the rear element intrigues me. Unlikely a CV copy IMO.
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It's styled nicely.
The silver one sort of reminds me of the Konica M Hexanon limited f1.2/50mm.
I'll try one once the first round of $250 second hand copies hit the classified boards.
Could be fun.

"Lovely plumage!"

Here's hoping we don't find out it's actually dead and has been nailed to the perch!
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Ha! It's made by some unpronounceable company in Shenzhen, "People's" "Republic" of China, that presently manufactures LED lights; probably sold poisoned dog food and ran missile parts to the NORKs and Iran before that (just a playful guess).

I'm just so intrigued now that I'm torn whether to buy one, walk my dog or watch grass grow.
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Ha! It's made by some unpronounceable company in Shenzhen, "People's" "Republic" of China, that presently manufactures LED lights; probably sold poisoned dog food and ran missile parts to the NORKs and Iran before that (just a playful guess).

I'm just so intrigued now that I'm torn whether to buy one, walk my dog or watch grass grow.
Down there they also make iPhones, iPads and almost all known gadgets for the rest of us. It's the cyberpunk capital of China.

Sounds more like the place a lens like this would come from.

I've got a feeling, that the diagram printed on the box is just a ripoff. You can see a certain element being blacked out...like it's a poor photoshop paint over.

I'm rather curious on the claim of this 7/6 lens being a "Sonnar formula". Would really be something if it's true.
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Nice Ben. i'm looking forward to your comparison. I've wanted the e58 Noctilux from the jump, but could never afford one. If this one is close or even in the adjacent neighborhood I'm gonna get one !


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I also ordered one just for fun, but they say its about 2-3 weeks until it arrives here in Germany. Curious...
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I think we're waiting for you to take up that burden Raid
I may just do it. Sounds like Sonnar fun.
Would you order the silver version or the black one?
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Would you order the silver version or the black one?
At that price, order one of each and then toss the one you like the least.
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Think I'm going to get one.
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Welp, got it. Should be here shortly.
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Congratulations! Silver or black? Why?
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Congratulations! Silver or black? Why?
Black, and really, why not? I wanted to see what it does for myself, and at that price, there is little risk to it. I actually talked the seller down to $330 so, we'll see.
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You bargained at ebay ?
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You bargained at ebay ?
yeah, and it was actually off of eBay to get it that low. we'll see what happens.
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I offered $301. We shall see. They seem to have mass-produced this lens, and sellers have many lenses to sell. Their 35/2 is cheap ($169) and also their M 4/3 25/1.8 ($69). They have on their website a 50mm 0.95 M. The latter may cost $1200 or so. Are they copying with 3D the design of Leica lenses?
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I doubt they are copying any existing lenses. Designing and manufacturing common camera lenses these days is rather routine affair optically. Anyone with a credit card can purchase powerful raytracing software that runs on personal computers which would have have required a mainframe computer running in a research lab in an earlier era. Mass produced, consumer grade lenses are not as hard to make as they once were either - all the equipment to do it be purchased if one has a big enough bank account. I can imagine there are companies in Germany that would even build you a turnkey factory to do it.
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This is a good point, David. Technology makes it happen.
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This is a good point, David. Technology makes it happen.
Yes, exactly and we can be grateful for it too!
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I plan to buy one of these lenses myself if the reports on it are at all reasonable.
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I am waiting for Brian to get his lens and take it apart, hopefully.
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I plan to buy one of these lenses myself if the reports on it are at all reasonable.
Wait 30 days; then either the lens sells for $250 or for $550.
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Wait 30 days; then either the lens sells for $250 or for $550.
Good plan.

Besides, I have a really nice Sonnetar 50/1.1 so I have all the character I need for now.

Truthfully a 1.1 aperture is really wasted on me. I can hardly see well enough to focus my Summilux wide open on my M3!

That is why my favorite lens is the Planar 50/2. At least I have a better keeper ratio with that lens.



EDIT - I lie, actually my favorite lens is still the Elmar 50/3.5!!
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